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  KDE Commit-Digest for 11th November 2007
Developer Posted by Danny Allen on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @13:03
from the late-is-relative dept.
In this week's KDE Commit-Digest: Resurgent development work on KDevelop 4, with work on code parsing, code completion and the user interface. Support for converting the KVTML XML-based format to HTML in KDE-Edu. Support for the much-wanted feature of multiple album root paths in Digikam. Various continued developments in Amarok 2. Multiple additional comic sources for the Plasma Comic applet. Support for Kopete plugins written in Python, Ruby, JavaScript and other supported languages through the Kross scripting framework. A simple command-line application for playing media supported by Phonon. WavPack, TrueAudio and Speex format support added to the TagLib support library used by JuK and Amarok. Audio device work (utilising Solid) in KMix. Work begins on KsCD by a team of French students. Various optimisations in Plasma and Dolphin, amongst other applications. okular moves to a shared FreeDesktop.org library for PostScript format support. KGhostView finally removed in favour of okular for KDE 4.0. Code for supporting Apple OS X Dashboard applets via WebKit imported into playground (not for KDE 4.0!)


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Thanks Danny
by Marc on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @13:20
Thanks, thanks, thanks !!!!!!!!!!
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Thanx
by Patcito on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @13:28
Thanks for the Digest Danny but why do you always put the sunday date and publish it on Wednesday? I guess you don't have time to release it on Sunday and that's ok but then you should put the date of Wednesday no? :)
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Give Kickoff a chance!
by Anonymous cow on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @13:37
So, I've tried the new KDE4 beta, and I had the opportunity to use Kickoff for the first time. First impression: it looks pretty. But how does it fare when you actually try to use it? Well, I think that many of its critics have been a bit unfair. It's quite obvious that Kickoff is still a beta product, and it still has quite a few rough edges to soften. Nevertheless, people seem to pounce on it and tear it to pieces as if it were a finished product -- give it a chance for goodness sake!

One example: the navigation between the tree of applications is still very awkward and confusing. But don't you think the Kickoff guys know about it? Give them some time, and I'm sure they'll improve it to the point where it is usable. Also, I like the idea of the "clickless" switching of tabs. At the moment it still causes a few problems -- let your mouse wander a bit too much and the tab switches unexpectedly -- but with some tweaks it can become really cool and usable.

My conclusion? I think that Kickoff has quite a number of neat ideas and is showing a lot of promise. My advice to its developers would be to get some of the usability people involved, because I'm sure they can give you lots of good advice (for instance, the navigation through the application tree seriously needs to be revisited; I am sure those usability folks will have a heart-attack when they try that one...).

Anyway, keep up the good work!
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Digikam
by Martin on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @14:13
Here is my use case for Digikam:

1. Set up repositories on my laptop and on an external drive/network drive.
2. As the laptop drive fills up, I move pictures from the laptop repository to the external repository, not necessarily from inside Digikam.
3. Digikam does not delete the database information about the moved files, but notices that they are missing. Optionally it shows them as "ghosts" in the interface.
4. When I plug in the drive/connect to the network, Digikam finds the moved pictures and associates them with the already present database information.
5. Since Digikam could not know in step 3. whether the pictures were moved or deleted, there is a function that allows me to confirm expunging of pictures that were truly removed, to get rid of the ghosts.

I suppose this use is not supported yet, but with the new feature we got a lot closer!

(Identifying moved picture can be reliably done with checksums, but would primarily be done by looking at file sizes/names/dates and/or by a hidden file in each directory. I'm sure there is some synergy with Strigi and Nepomuk here?)
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Thanks danny
by kollum on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @14:15
Nice things to read. Nice work.

I don't know what I would miss more if they didn't exist :
the "much-wanted feature of multiple album root paths in Digikam"(yay, finaly, that's great) or
the commit digest every week
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Thank you very much!
by Fuffo on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @14:22
Can't live without commit-digest...
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Ligature
by Martin on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @14:41
Has Ligature definitely been abandoned now? Could someone tell the story of what happened to it? Is our good friend Wilfried Huss, who kept us up to date in the past, still lurking on the Dot?

(FYI: Ligature is/was the renamed KViewShell, an app that on the surface of it looks/looked almost identical to Okular, but has/had different internals. I don't know exactly what was unreconcilably different, since also the low-level libraries, such as Poppler for PDF, were shared, but supposedly Ligature is/was more tailored for DVI files. Its developers also claimed it to be faster.)
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Konqueror suggestions
by JRT on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @14:44
I'm not going to make any suggestions here.

Reading between the flames on the KDE-dev mailing list, I find that large changes are planed for Konqueror which I am not sure if users will like.

So, a simple question, where is the proper place for users to post their suggestions on how to improve Konqueror?
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Amarok Playlist should be bigger and in the middle
by Scott on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @15:22
It seems that the Amarok playlist is getting bigger and bigger (as it should) -- now it's about a third of the window. Now let's move in to the middle!

What's the point of having an empty blue screen in the middle, if this scrunches up the majority of the titles in the playlist and forces them to be hidden behind an ellipses symbol (...)? Let the user see what song is actually playing, and give the playlist the focus that it deserves ;)

Overall, I like the fact that the various widgets are more compact, resulting in less wasted screen real-estate. I hope this trend continues.
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Selection in Amarok's tree view, compact scrollbar
by Bob on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @15:45
I think only the letters in "Interstate Medicine" should be highlighted grey in Amarok's treeview, and not the space to the left (see attached screenshot). It's not supposed to highlight the vertical line representing the parent folder. This highlighting behavior in treeviews seems to be a problem throughout KDE 4, since Dolphin also extends the highlighting to the left.

Also, is there any way to eliminate the space between a scrollbar and the window it controls? (see red arrow on attached screenshot).
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Print-protected PDFs
by Rubén Moreno Montolíu on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @17:31
> KGhostView finally removed in favour of okular

I use KPDF to read PDF files and I have no doubt that okular will be a great app but currently I need to use KGhostView in order to print print-protected PDF documents. Will okular allow me printing of print-protected PDF documents?
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shadow bug
by Rudolhp on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @18:51
when you use compiste, the shadow in the desktop doesnt dissapers when you close kickoff, you need start a new window o aplicattion and the shadows go away, now im compiling from svn, but wanna now if is solved ???
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Amarok 2
by CptnObvious999 on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @20:23
I have to say when I first heard that Amarok 2.0 would be using covers in the playlist and compacting it I was more then a little scared. Being a huge fan of Amarok previously, I loved the playlist and didn't think that this would improve it all only make it more bloated. I was wrong, that video put into perpective how cool this will be. Thank you everyone for your hard work and innovation!
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Konqueror for 4.0
by Darryl Wheatley on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @21:02
Aaron has an interesting post at (http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/11/oxygenation.html), where he shows the great work being done to oxygenify the beloved Big K. One thing that puzzles me however, is this: why was the search bar in the right hand side removed? I know you can do "gg:" for a Google search etc, but I thought the bar was a pleasant touch. Is there an option to re-enable it for those feeling sentimental?

Oh and thanks for your perseverance and durability in providing these great digests Danny & crew; your motivation and dedication to the cause is admirable!
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KPPP
by Emil Sedgh on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @23:08
KPPP shouldnt be dead, its widely used in third-world countries who still use dialup...
last time i tried it wasnt working, is there anyone on it? what happened to its Solidifaction? in trunk, its still the kppp of kde3, but just not working...
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Kwin Composite
by Luis on Wednesday 14/Nov/2007, @23:56
Is it possible to run Kwin Composite with ATI proprietary driver and XGL?

I have tried a lot of things without success.

Any help will be very appreciate :)
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k3b !
by shamaz on Thursday 15/Nov/2007, @01:28
"Sebastian Trueg committed changes in /trunk/KDE/kdebase/runtime:
[...]next week K3b gets ported to KDE4![...]"

wonderful :)
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Kicker replacement
by Manuele on Thursday 15/Nov/2007, @04:05
Months ago in the KDE-Look site someone posted a mockup of a kicker replacement idea (http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kde4+Mockup?content=28476). Does anybody know whether something in Plasma is moving toward that direction? I think the Create-Communicate-Configure thing and the task oriented menu is very original (no other OS's have it) and much more usable than the other kicker replacement idea I've seen. Will we ever see something like that?
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