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Dock
by bele on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @10:14
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New dock is so cool ... can't really wait for KDE 4!
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hope
by Rudolhp on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @10:14
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im using the svn version.
many people says that kde3.0 was untable, full of bug and that kde will be the same, but kde4 look really stable, some parts crash, but the are apps like juk, kwin4 like composite works without problems, dolphin stable, i have hope that when kde4.0 is released can be used like kde3.5.x.
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Congratulations!
by André on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @10:25
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Congratulations to all contributors of KDE 4 on reaching this milestone! Excellent work, and I'm looking forward to a splendid KDE 4 series.
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Debian
by Sepp on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @10:27
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First: Thanks to all the KDE-Devs for your hard work! I'm shure KDE4 will rock!
I'm currently switching back from Kubuntu to Debian unstable. It's been a while, since I last used Sid, so here my question: are RC-Packages uploaded to unstable, or just to experimental?
Hopefully the Debian KDE maintainers release a new livecd with RC1-Packages soon (currently beta4):
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4livecd.html
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Nearly all there
by fogge on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @10:51
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Congratulations guys, I am using an svn version updated an hour ago and it rocks! The only small problems I see are:
a) System tray is WIP
b) Krunner dialog looked nicer in last weeks version
c) Still can't drag 'widgets' to the bottombar (which is immovable)
d) Location bar height has been squeezed to < font height in Konq
e) Okular will not show PS in the window but in a tiny separate window.
These are mostly cosmetic problems and are clearly obvious to the talented developers (so I don't clutter bugs.kde with them). This is just to forewarn those who will be testing this Beta.
Looking good guys! - Especially with the dark 'Wonton Soup' colorscheme for those of us who value our retinas ;)
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Congratulations
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @10:55
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Looks like the day I'm goind to do the switch to 4 is coming near.
Just some questions about KDE4, so I can decide if RC1 is for me:
- Does it use much more resources than 3? I have a small duron 1.6Ghz with 512 RAM, you know.
- is it stable enought to at least run without crashing without user interaction? (I mean, opening ktorrent and letting the box downloading) :)
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Congratulations
by Emil Sedgh on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @11:44
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Congratulations.Everyone, This Is The Result Of Many Years Of Development Of A Huge Community.This Is The Moment That We Were All Waiting For!
(My experience: Applications are in a good shape, stable and usefull.but Workspace needs the last bits...oxygen, plasma and kwin need some little things to be done)
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kde4rc1
by duSoo on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @12:10
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great work, guys... today, i updated svn and i couldn't belevie my eyes! it's so wonderful! thank you a lot
P.S.: after locking the screen i can't get back, so i have to restart X, my password isn't accepted at all.. not a disaster, but... :)
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Great news!
by mactalla on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @12:22
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Thanks for all the hard work, everyone! (devs, artists, documentation teams, etc)
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dot.kde.org is UGLY
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @12:58
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The dot needs an update. See
<A href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152375">http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152375</A>
Dear dotties, please vote and hope ;-)
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Why not Kalamity?
by Bobby on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @13:25
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I am a bit surprised that Calamity isn't written with K. I really admire you guy's fantasies though.
Thanks for you great work and the fun in it :)
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What's the status of plasma with python?
by Chaoswind on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @14:07
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Is it possible with calamity, to write plasmaoids in python?
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Active Window
by Dominic on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @15:05
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Judging from current screenshots the active and inactive windows seem to have no visual distinction. Will KDE 4 have an option to color the caption of the active window in anything but grey? Or maybe better, frame the entire window with a thin colored line? I think the lack of distinction between active and inactive windows is one of the most serious usability flaws of Mac OS 10.4.
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kubuntu gutsy packages available!
by mikkael on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @15:08
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kubuntu gutsy gibbon packages available:
http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
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Software hits the streets
by T. J. Brumfield on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @16:13
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What kind of word do we live in when kids can pick up software from the streets?
You don't know where that software has been.
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Not a troll
by matt on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @18:53
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I don't want to sound too trollish.
What ever happened to konstruct? Not that I don't like the build instructions on the techabse website the explanations are great, it just seems a lot of time is spent building these packages when it would be great if it was still automated. It would be nice just to download, compile and install so that I can get on with the testing side of things. If something doesn't work during the compiling I'm just going to wait for the packages, which is a shame.
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Great Job!
by Incense on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @20:07
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I just loaded the SUSE live disc, and RC1 looks amazing. Love the look and feel, the widgets look great, and the applications are running nicely! Great job devs! KDE4 looks like it's going to be a joy to use!
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hrmf...
by turn_self_off on Tuesday 20/Nov/2007, @22:43
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about the only thing that looks interesting there is the new kmenu...
the rest? meh...
btw, does anyone have a list of whats being done with konqueror? i keep hearing that its not being neglected over dolphin but im not sure where to look for news about whats being worked on.
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Please add links to screenshots
by Step on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @00:52
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I like to see some screenshots. :)
I use my PC for works so I can not install release candidates etc.
Thank you for the screenshot links.
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Can't get composite to work with kwin
by Federico Gherardini on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @01:51
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Hi everyone!
First of all congratulation for this release candidate. The future looks VERY promising... (and the present too!). I've been installing betas for a while and I've never been able to get kwin composite effects to work with my graphics card (geforce GO5600 with nvidia binary drivers, running under OpenSUSE 10.3). Composite is enabled in Xorg and compiz fusion work for me but kwin... no luck! It keeps on saying
kwin(17309) KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11" composite: 0x
"4" render: 0x "a" fixes: 0x "40"
kwin(17309) KWin::Workspace::setupCompositing: No compositing
Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance!
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nice (but unusable for me)
by Melchior FRANZ on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @03:10
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The oxygen gui style, window decoration and icons have become beautiful. There are lots of really great features and applications. But while I had hoped to switch to KDE4 as soon as possible, some not so great decisions make it impossible for me. Some of the broken features will probably get fixed soon, but some are apparently broken by design and even listed as "improvements".
One missing feature that I just can't work without: panel autohiding. This black bar eats a lot of my desktop space and makes "maximized" windows a lot smaller than I'm used to. Also, I haven't yet found a way to set more than 4 virtual desktops, but I'm sure that this will get addressed soon. (Haven't yet bothered to edit the config file.) I'm aware that the whole desktop workspace is still work in progress. No need to panic. :-)
I can't stand the kde menu (forgot its name). I find it hard to believe that it has survived any usability testing, but I accept it as a fact that there was some. The hard coded size is a step backwards and reminds me of (old?) MS Windows file dialogs. It's much too easy to switch tabs by accidentally leaving the file/category area. It's easy to miss the backwards button on the left (now that it's no longer left aligned). But I hear that there's a classical menu in the works, so that's not a big problem. And most of the time I start applications with konsole, anyway.
Gwenview has become completely unusable for me, which is a big showstopper, as I use that very often. Not only does it pop up completely unwanted menus when hovering over a thumbnail (I'll patch that away in my copy), it has dropped the possibility to adjust gamma/brightness/contrast. Yes, I could keep using gwenview from KDE3, but having two Qt-libs in memory isn't exactly a desirable goal. Need to check out pixie ...
Someone will probably jump on me and criticize me for ... erm ... criticizing,
and that's OK. :-)
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That's wonderfull
by Prom on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @03:31
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Congratulations to the KDE team for their great work. My respect. :)
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A suggestion [semi-OT]
by marce on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @04:11
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Include apps (either extragears or playgrounds) that have not kde3 versión into "test distros". I'm referring specially to kaider.
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Dual Head
by bsander on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @05:47
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Can anyone tell me how it performs on a Xinerama or TwinView setup? Thanks!
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kwin4 and Compiz
by Skeith on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @07:01
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Some screenshots I see here ( http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=742 ) have compiz-like effects but are powered by kwin. Is Kwin4 intended to replace compiz for KDE or can you still use them both?
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Mac OS style menu bar?
by furanku on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @07:22
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Will KDE 4 support the Mac OS style menu bar at the top of the screen? I liked that feature very much in KDE 3, but couldn't find it in KDE 4.
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bugs.kde.org overloaded?
by chris.w on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @07:23
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It seems like every time I try to search bugs on bugs.kde.org, I wait and wait and wait until I get a timeout. For the very same reason, I can't file any bug reports, although I've already found plenty of problems to report. Seems like the server can't take the sudden onslaught of testers ...
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Less Dead/White/Empty Space
by T. J. Brumfield on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @07:52
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Judging from the new screenshots, it looks like much of the dead/empty/white space has been trimmed. It isn't nearly as tight as I'd like, but it looks much better. I'm also assuming eventually there will be plenty of themes for me to choose from on kde-look later on regardless.
I think it is starting to look really good.
Perhaps it is time for me to stop just trying out live cds everyone once in a while, and actually install KDE 4 for myself. I think this weekend, I will take the plunge!
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RC quality
by Luis on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @12:02
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I'm not trolling, it isn't what I want to do.
However, don't you think some basic stuff should be there for been able of calling it Release Candidate? And yes, I believe most KDE 4.0 is already on that state.
But come'on, plasma support a lot of nifty effects, plasmoids, dashboard, etc. and I'm not able to change my wallpaper... WTF
And, could some benevolent soul could tell me where is the config file where I can change the background? Thanks in advance.
Oh, I've seen that now Plasmoids support some kind of dialog around them, which aloud me to move them, configure them, rotate them or remove them. I like the idea, but, it's one hundred times more intuitive to move plasmoids dragging them from the border than that, whit the new dialog I had to think how I was supposed to move them!
This new dialog is also very ugly, but it isn't important, I'm sure it would change.
I know that you know that Plasma panel needs work still, so I won't complain about it, but it isn't RC quality.
Can't you hide all those pop-ups in System Settings? They're annoying.
Aside from those, KDE 4.0 RC 1 it's amazing. I love Dolphin, I wrote this from Konqueror, you can flame me, but I like kickoff, ksysguard is ten times better than the KDE 3.5.x version, juk surprised me! Amarok is nice, it has some bugs here and there, and the plasma context is still unusable, but it's shaping nicely, I love the new playlist, Kontact suite, is better too, and overall it's an impressive release.
PS: Ok, I did wrote this in Konqueror, but I couldn't post it! Filling a bug report...
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First impression
by Michael on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @14:24
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I ignored all beta releases. KDE 4 RC1 is my first ever glimpse at KDE 4. I'm using the Kubuntu packages. What I like:
* Sound effects. Not too much. Very professional
* Design of windows, control elements etc
* Plasma applets. Even rotatable. Can image this will be really great,
once more applets become available
* Icons scaling dynamically when resizing the panes in Dolphin
* Didnt experience crashes. Seems already very stable.
* K Menu doesnt look as crowded and filled with icons as it used to be. Only necessary things appear.
What I didnt like (still work-in-progress, I know):
* Everything feels a bit more "sluggish" than in KDE 3. When rotating plasma applets this becomes especially evident (though this feature isnt available in KDE 3). But also other, simpler things, like scrolling, clicking menus, etc. take a little bit more time. Not so much that I would call it unusable, but just enough to keep me from using it regularly right now.
* When I start Okular there is a strange window resize problem.
* New K menu behaves a bit strange. Especially, I dont like that the menu switches between different completely different things just by "touching" them with the mouse. This happened to me accidentally quite often. Very confusing.
* Taskbar looks strange. Window titles are wrapped around unnecessarily and over 3 lines. Task icons appear in the center for no reason at all, but perhaps this is the new KDE 4 way and I still need to get used to it.
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Remote X via SunRay not impressive
by J on Wednesday 21/Nov/2007, @17:21
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I'm using my KDE desktop via a openvpn connection (over 10Mbit/sec ADSL) with a SunRay2 thin client and compared to KDE 3.5.x the new KDE 4 RC1 is not too impressive. It seems to redraw my windows and desktop somewhat slower and generally seems more sluggish. Is there any known obvious reason for this?
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Great But Slow
by Matttias on Thursday 22/Nov/2007, @09:57
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Hi,
I just wanted to tell that KDE 4 is looking great but in fact it's too slow... I have tested it on a AMD64 with kubuntu 7.10 and a 256MB video card... I hope it will be fixed
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kppp
by The Vcar on Thursday 22/Nov/2007, @15:50
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Is kppp working yet? This is a showstopper for me, as I have to rely on an external USB modem in my area. It would also be needed for people living in Third World countries.
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Slackware packages?
by Eduardo on Saturday 24/Nov/2007, @06:23
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I would really like to test this release, but there aren't any Slackware packages on it, and my box is too slow to build KDE4. If only you could provide a set of Slackbuilds, that would be really nice.
Meanwhile, the RC1 Info page said:
"For those interested in getting packages to test and contribute, several distributions notified us that they will have KDE 4.0-rc1 packages available at or soon after the release. The complete and current list can be found on the KDE 4.0-rc1 Info Page, where you can also find links to the source code, information about compiling, security and other issues. "
But still there aren't any other packages than OpenSUSE... how could we test the release if there aren't any packages? We are end users, after all...
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To big and messy
by Hĺvard on Wednesday 28/Nov/2007, @08:55
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Have waited for KDE4 some time now and tried both Beta4 and RC1. Man I am disappointed. It looks like you have tried to copy MS and build the biggest chunk of software with 90% functionality few people ever need or think about. Also the user interface is too cluttered with big icons and applets and window decorations taking to much space, it just look messy. Even settings and icons are missing in what is called an RC-1??? I am surprised that this much development is still going on just 1-2 weeks before the final release. But most of all, I get the MS feeling when I have to download half the internet just to get a basic UI up and running.
This made me a bit worried because I like to use KDevelop both for work and private development. I have now switched to Eclipse/CDT and are very impressed with that IDE. So when I feel that KDE3 starts to become to outdated I guess I have no choice but to switch to Gnome or similar... :(
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Did you mean "Kalamity"? ;-)
by Jason on Thursday 29/Nov/2007, @18:27
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I think you meant "Kalamity"...
i really think so...
I can't wait!
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