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Disappointing
by she on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @10:05
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oh well...
guess i am disappointed. no xmas kde!
This is probably the better solution, to fix all the outstanding issues without over-pressuring the developers or burning them out, but ... i cant help myself... i am slightly disappointed :( |
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Re: Disappointing
by me on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @11:15
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I 2nd this. I am slightly disappointed, too. But I think it is definitely the better choice to release a good KDE4 in january than an clearly unfinished one in december.
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Re: Disappointing
by WPosche on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @11:33
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Well, I was so looking forward to being able to install KDE4 for Christmas and I thought there would probably be another RC but I really hoped that the release would still have been this year. Anyway, my mind also tells me that this is probably the best solution considering the current state of development.
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Re: Disappointing
by sebas on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @15:34
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Well, you can always install an SVN snapshot and follow the progress towards 4.0 in more detail. It's quite well-documented, and I wouldn't consider it hard. You set up the development environment once, then it costs you two commands to get an updated 'latest KDE'. How about that?
It's actually really exciting to observe the progress on KDE 4.0 these days...
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Re: Disappointing
by CptnObvious999 on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @12:36
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I think this is a good thing. The only difference is the release that you will be installing will be the latest RC instead of a final release. The release will be just as stable as it would if they just called it the final release but this is more fitting with the standard versioning scheme. I think any outstanding issues should be fixed before it is considered a final release.
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Re: Disappointing
by Richard on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @13:34
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was counting down the days to installing the final, waaaaaaaa, I want a refund ;)
Good decision, best to release something that you are happy to release, than release something that makes people run to the hills, aka Vista.
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Re: Disappointing
by yman on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @23:51
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as odd as this may seem, and this surprised me as well, I never really had any problems with Vista. I mean, it is an inferior product in most parameters, such as software installation, management and updates. It's less secure and less stable. a lot of things aren't as well organized as in my distribution and simply don't make sense, and there are regressions from Windows XP. on the other hand, aside from poor design choices, I didn't really encounter any problems. (aside from malware infections, but who counts those nowadays?)
from the article:
"...the KDE community hopes to have a KDE 4.0 that will live up to the high expectations for it." - I assume this is talking more about stability than feature completeness?
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Re: Disappointing
by Kevin Kofler on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @14:18
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If you can't wait, there's ways to try out KDE 4 in its current state right now:
* openSUSE has been preparing KDE Four Live CDs for a while already.
* The Debian KDE team is now offering something similar.
* Fedora Rawhide (i.e. what will become Fedora 9) will include KDE 4 in a few days (the import has already started). There will also be live images, at least for the 3 test releases (alpha, beta, RC), probably also for some inbetween snapshots.
* Then there's the add-on repos for openSUSE, Kubuntu and probably others.
* And finally, you can always build from source, that's what kdesvn-build and the snapshot tarballs are for.
As others have already said, calling the release "4.0 final" sooner is not going to make it any less buggy, so waiting for it to actually be releasable before labeling it that way makes sense entirely. And it wouldn't significantly change your options to get KDE 4 anyway, distros aren't going to ship a version with KDE 4 as default the day KDE 4.0 is released, and I think this slip isn't impacting any distribution's schedule in any significant way (if you're from a distro which is impacted by this, feel free to prove me wrong though).
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Re: Disappointing
by Kevin Kofler on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @14:20
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> for the 3 test releases (alpha, beta, RC)
To clarify: I mean the 3 test releases of Fedora 9 here. (Compared to earlier Fedora releases, they have been renamed test1->alpha, test2->beta and test3->RC.) I know KDE 4.0 is in RC already. ;-)
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Re: Disappointing
by Jim on Sunday 02/Dec/2007, @07:11
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> guess i am disappointed. no xmas kde!
What would have been "KDE 4.0" will simply be RC 2. Just install RC 2 and pretend it's KDE 4.0. It will be the exact same code. Calling it "4.0" doesn't magically fix bugs.
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Re: Disappointing
by Brando on Wednesday 12/Dec/2007, @10:48
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I was a little disappointed too, i was studying for exams these past two days as was thinking yesterday "kde4 is out" then i saw this today, oh well... as someone stated before its better for them to iron out the kinks and push the release date back rather then release buggy software and meet their deadline (ala microsoft)
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