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Good Call
by KBX on Saturday 01/Dec/2007, @13:29

This was obviously a good call. It's also obvious that it's nonsense to name these Release Candidates! Everyone knows they are not ready for release, so they're Betas. In any case, not much to do about that right now, good luck guys and thanks for all your work.

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Re: Good Call
by Debian User on Sunday 02/Dec/2007, @04:53

You know what a release candidate is good for as well? Testing if it is a release candidate!

Only now it's obvious that deadlines were missed and a schedule extension is necessary. Notice how the delay announcement is shortly after the release candidate has been found incomplete.

But you will never know, if you are not making deadlines, what people have sitting in their checkouts, and another Beta wouldn't be a hard enough deadline, or else things would already be there.

Yours,
Kay

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Re: Good Call
by Jim on Sunday 02/Dec/2007, @07:09

> Only now it's obvious that deadlines were missed and a schedule extension is necessary. Notice how the delay announcement is shortly after the release candidate has been found incomplete.

No, I think it was plainly obvious beforehand. Look at the list of current showstoppers. Plasma:

> goal: A basic panel is there; current work is to flesh it out into a more capable panel system. System tray and taskbar both need work as does a desktop containment with legacy support for the Desktop folder.

This is clearly not ready for release, you don't need millions of testers to realise that. It is not the surprise that you are making it out to be.

> But you will never know, if you are not making deadlines, what people have sitting in their checkouts, and another Beta wouldn't be a hard enough deadline, or else things would already be there.

Nobody is arguing against deadlines, only against unreasonable ones that don't reflect the state of the code. And the idea that a release candidate is meant to prompt people to commit code is ludicrous.

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Re: Good Call
by eMPee584 on Monday 03/Dec/2007, @02:29

> And the idea that a release candidate is meant to prompt people to commit code is ludicrous.
Well, so is reality. Actually It is quite clear that the code would have been far less ready if the original schedule stated the January release date in the first place. Honestly, who cares about the integrity of the term 'release candidate' and its correct usage. Whatever - let's rather finish this thing. Then we can call it 4.0-stable.

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