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  KDE Commit-Digest for 2nd December 2007
Developer Posted by Danny Allen on Tuesday 04/Dec/2007, @17:32
from the welcome-new-readers! dept.
In this week's KDE Commit-Digest: The beginnings of screen hotplug detection in Plasma, KRunner gets history support. Fifteen Pieces puzzle becomes the first Plasma applet in the game category. A block of bugfixing in KDevelop, with various other developments in areas such as a threaded debugger. Support for inequality constraints in Step, continued progress in the port of KEduca to KDE 4. Work on printing in okular. Work on Solid-based network management through NetworkManager. Various work towards Amarok 2. Milestones reached in the BitTorrent plugin for KGet. Subsystem rewrites (SSL, SFTP) in KFTP. OpenDocument format loading and saving work in KChart. Colour work in Krita, with Krita becoming one of the first applications to be able to paint in HDR. New Oxygen-themed sound effects, Oxygen icons are optimised for small sizes. New colour schemes added for KDE 4.0. Ruby language bindings based on the Smoke2 framework. Experiments in KBugBuster and on a Plasma "applet designer" application. Read the rest of the Digest here.


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KGet and KUIServer duplication of functionality
by Laurie on Tuesday 04/Dec/2007, @18:14
There seems to be a duplication of functionality between KGet and KUIServer: they both list and control file transfers. I can see users getting confused by the two GUIs.

Here's an example: every transfer listed in KGet also appears in KUIServer, but not every transfer in KUIServer is listed in KGet (because KGet doesn't deal with uploading). Very confusing. How about merging all functionality of KGet into KUIServer?
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Screen hotplug detection in Plasma
by J Klassen on Tuesday 04/Dec/2007, @18:26
The beginnings of screen hotplug detection in Plasma...
So no more restarting X when you plug in a second monitor? Sounds sweet!
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Better improve FTP/SFTP KIO slaves than KFTP
by Bob on Tuesday 04/Dec/2007, @18:33
Wouldn't it be better to focus on improving the FTP and SFTP KIO slaves than the KFTPGrabber client? The KIO slaves are much more convenient as they can be used from the regular file manager (Dolphin) or from Open/Save As dialogs. It's cumbersome to open up a separate application just to deal with FTP and SFTP transfers (KFTPGrabber), another application to deal to with Windows/SMB (Smb4K), and another to deal with local files (Dolphin).

The FTP and SFTP KIO slaves are installed by default in KDE and improvements in the KIO slaves would help every single KDE app. Very few people even bother to install KFTPGrabber anyway.
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Oxygen sounds have no meaning, too long
by Kory on Tuesday 04/Dec/2007, @18:51
The new oxygen sounds reminds me of Mac OS 7.

http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen/sounds/new/

The sounds are all played on a keyboard synthesizer and all sound very similar, making it hard to tell the difference between and error and a notification. IMHO they don't have any relation to the topic they are trying to convey. The error and warning sounds sound too mellow. Doesn't anyone know how to do fancy effects ala shattering windows?

Also, the log in and log out sounds are way too long -- almost as bad as:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1bgsvsWms
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Thank you Danny !
by shamaz on Tuesday 04/Dec/2007, @22:53
:)
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Applet Designer
by Lee on Wednesday 05/Dec/2007, @00:01
I don't know how to contact Tim Beulen, but his applet designer concept sounds a lot like something I posted recently:

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Another+take+on+Object-Oriented+Desktops?content=69144

It would be good to work together on this.
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Tasty Menu
by Rob on Wednesday 05/Dec/2007, @00:23
It looks, well... tasty :)
Just one thing: is there overlap between the Tasty Menu concept "Favourite applications" and kcontrol's "Default applications", and do/should they share a common implementation?
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Where's the code for the Fifteen Puzzle?
by Cultural Sublimation on Wednesday 05/Dec/2007, @00:52
Where can I find the code for the fifteen Puzzle applet? I'd like to take a look at it (I suspect it has a bug), but I can't find it via the websvn interface (which desperately needs a search option!).

This is where I looked: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/
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Wow, a fullscreen Start Menu
by yxxcvsdfbnfgnds on Wednesday 05/Dec/2007, @00:57
It's bad enough that the preferences panels in KControl/System Settings barely fit on a 1024x768 screen, but now even a Start menu that takes so much space? Well, as long as it's optional I'm fine with it, but hopefully that one doesn't become the default some day...
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KDevelop 4?
by yxxcvsdfbnfgnds on Wednesday 05/Dec/2007, @01:10
Now that KDevelop 3.5 is mentioned, I wonder what happened to KDevelop 4. http://www.kdevelop.org/mediawiki/index.php/KDevelop_4 doesn't give a lot information about its current status.
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tasty menu
by voicu on Wednesday 05/Dec/2007, @06:54
i really like the way tasty menu works. one thing i don't like about most GUIs is that you get a lot of popups (menus, message boxes, etc) which should be as few as possible. for example in many applications (kde or not) when an error occurs you usually get an error box that stops the flow of your work. at least for the non-critical errors there should some kind of bar or something that lists everything that happened. (this is also useful if you get many errors/warnings and you can't remember them)
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Kickoff - very good menu
by fast_rizwaan on Wednesday 05/Dec/2007, @19:43
initially i started as kickoff hater, but after using it for a while in opensuse (kde3) i find it absolutely essential. it's really an all in one place for information/devices/application in your system.

the only place kickoff seems annoying is finding application like the old win95 start menu.

but there is a much better and easier way..

just type "player" (or part of the name) to find all media players.. or type "browser" to find all browsers installed, which is the fastest way to find an application by name or by application type.

kickoff for kde4 needs a few improvements like in kde3's version and it will become one of the most loved application of kde4.

hopefully implemented by kde4.0

1. resizeable kickoff like kde3.
2. clicking on applications button/tab will bring to the Top-Level of application menu.

other usability feature i would like to see is:

1. the right-left sliding is rather slow and hence visually annoying.. it can be sped up or no slide-animation or some fast fade-in animation would be nice.

2. the < top-level back bar on the left, should blink to inform the user that the parent menu is on the left side.

3. and a dolphin like location-bar on top for "application tab/button" should be implemented for kickoff4 too, which allows quicker access to top-level folders/menus. when implemented, users can know where in the menu they are.

thanks aaron, and kde4 team for making kde4 cool :)

ps. just before you jump to slaughter kickoff, please use it with opensuse's kd3 for at least a few hours.. and feel the difference ;-)
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History support in KRunner
by Vide on Thursday 06/Dec/2007, @10:34
Aaron, why did you implement it?!? Do not listen to all those who are whining about plasma... history in Krunner dialog is absolutely useless, because in KDE3 we didn't have the results preview as we have in KDE4, so history was needed. Now with history support in KDE4 we have 2 visual ways to complete the same task competing in the same tiny windows.

I hope you get my comment right, I'm not whining, I just think that history's absence wasn't a regression at all.
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Congratulations
by Jesus R. Acosta on Saturday 08/Dec/2007, @07:37
I am using kde4daily to test as evolving development kde4 and I am really impressed.

My most sincere congratulations to all the team.
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