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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by AC on Tuesday 11/Dec/2007, @18:09
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> New users would complain that it's different than windows to no end.
This is KDE 4. I think users expect novelty, and will accept this change because it is apparent that a dangerous button like Close should not be anywhere near the other buttons. I personally haven't heard of a single OS X user complaining that the buttons are on the left side. And in OS X's situation they really don't have a good excuse to make the change beside wanting to be different from Windows. In this proposal we actually have a valid reason for splitting the buttons up. |
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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by Velvet Elvis on Tuesday 11/Dec/2007, @20:44
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I think users expect novelty
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Something can't be expected and novel at the same time.
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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by Quintesse on Tuesday 11/Dec/2007, @22:46
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You're changing his words and you know it.
(Hint: he doesn't say "Users want expected novelty")
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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by KOffice fan on Wednesday 12/Dec/2007, @06:44
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Mac OS has always had the close button on the left.
As did CDE and other early X-Window environments. And Windows 3.x
Actually, I think it was Windows 4.0 (aka Cairo, aka Win95) first introduced the close button on the right.
Since KDE has always had the close button on the right, though, I think it's good to leave it there, especially since this is the expected behaviour on most systems nowadays. It used to be configurable for people who want it on the left, and as long as the option is there, I'm fine with the current setup.
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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by Gabriel Gazzán on Wednesday 12/Dec/2007, @09:06
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Don't forget about the beloved Amiga! :)
Workbench UI also had the "Close" button on the left, and "Minimize"/"Maximize" on the right side.
As well as all Mac OS versions prior to OS X, now that I remember.
It was THE standard window button layout these days. And it was a good one, I don't know exactly why it was changed.
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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by hias on Wednesday 12/Dec/2007, @14:36
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The problem with the "Close" button on the left is, that it is very near the menue and can accidently be clickt. I used this settings for a few months and after I accidently closed the app some times while I just wanted to access the menu I changed the "Close" button to the right and all other buttons to the left and since then I never accidently closed an app.
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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by Tray on Wednesday 12/Dec/2007, @14:58
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> The problem with the "Close" button on the left is, that it is very near the menue
Under my proposal the menu (application icon) is moved to the center along with the title text. So the menu and the "Close" button are actually far apart.
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Re: Window button arrangement wastes space
by hias on Wednesday 12/Dec/2007, @15:07
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sorry, I'n not a native speaker. I didn't meant the menu icon but the menu toolbar with its menues like "File", "Edit" ...
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