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Re: We don't need no stinkin' consistency
by Leo S on Thursday 03/Jan/2008, @08:13
>> -Konqueror got the old one. Tiny tabs and icons, the selected tab is expanded and shows icon+vertical text, so the tabs constantly jump up and down if you switch between them.

Yeah the icons are too small to distinguish and hit

>> Amarok got its modification of that one. All tabs have icon+vertical text. (Imho that's the best solution but that's not really my point)

Except it doesn't work at all when you have more tabs than fit vertically. Why do you think konqueror went to icons.

>> Ocular has an Opera-style bar. But unlike Opera's its icon bar with horizontal text isn't collapsible and (like Opera) you can't adjust its width. (It's a collossal waste of space, and a POS -- but that is also beside the point)

Works for me. When I'm viewing a PDF I have a lot of unused horizontal space anyway, and the buttons are easy to click and easy to read.

>> Do we really need four different solutions?

Probably not.

>> It's not even as if they were all specialized for their specific use case.

Perhaps not, but they all have unique advantages and disadvantages, and none of them are clearly superior and suitable for a default.
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Re: We don't need no stinkin' consistency
by Ian Monroe on Thursday 03/Jan/2008, @08:33
Can't really say that Konqueror went to icons, Konqueror's sidebar predates Amarok's.

But yea, your last sentence pretty much sums up the issue.
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Re: We don't need no stinkin' consistency
by ac on Thursday 03/Jan/2008, @08:54
>> Except it doesn't work at all when you have more tabs than fit vertically.

Fade out part of the text, group some tabs together, have a "list all tabs" button for those that don't fit, that's not a deal breaker.
And Konqueror is probably the most extreme case when talking about sidebars.

>> Works for me. When I'm viewing a PDF I have a lot of unused horizontal space anyway, and the buttons are easy to click and easy to read.

If there's one of the tabs expanded it gets awfully wide, especially if the document is landscape.

>> Perhaps not, but they all have unique advantages and disadvantages, and none of them are clearly superior and suitable for a default.

Exactly. As I said I don't really like the Okular solution, but having everything use Okular's sidebar (preferrably collapsible like Opera) would still be superior to doing it in four different ways.
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