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Re: We don't need no stinkin' consistency
by kwilliam on Thursday 03/Jan/2008, @08:53

You know... you have a point. That sucks.

I wonder what we could do about it? Konqueror, Amarok, and Ocular could conceivably just use the Amarok style sidebar tabs.

The difference with Dolphin's is that it's using Qt panels, which can be placed so more than one shows at a time (unlike a sidebar) and that "tabbing" feature is built in. Dolphin's panels are really shooting for a different paradigm than a "sidebar" because you can put them on either side or even the bottom. Kpdf used an entirely different widget - it's supposed to be more of a "toolbox" widget - and I must agree it was a... interesting choice. Other than Qt designer, which uses the widget in a way that makes much more sense, I can't think of any applications that use it. (Kpdf was deprecated by Ocular for KDE 4.0.)

So, yes, we should see if we can get the KDE Human Interface Guidlines (HIG) group to pick a standard "sidebar" widget, or suggest the specs for a new sidebar widget that would combine the advantages of Okular's, Konqueror's, and Amarok's sidebars. I'm not sure who to contact about that (nor do I see this as a pressing matter), but this would be an excellent example for HIG to work on.

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Re: We don't need no stinkin' consistency
by kwilliam on Thursday 03/Jan/2008, @09:00

Ah, I just saw the comments regarding the disadvantages of Amarok-style tabs. Well, maybe some kind of sidebar that does icons & text if there is enough room, and automatically switches to just icons if it senses theres not enough room? And you can drag the left edge to make it wider, at which point it becomes Okular style. That would solve all the usability problems, no? (It could be wide by default in Okular, but anoyed users could make it Amarok/Konqueror style by trying to resize it intuitively, by grabbing the edge and dragging.)

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Re: We don't need no stinkin' consistency
by kwilliam on Thursday 03/Jan/2008, @09:28

"Other than Qt designer, which uses the widget in a way that makes much more sense, I can't think of any applications that use [Kpdf-style sidebar]."

Ah, I take that back. Marble uses it. The plot thickens.... ;-)

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