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Re: Cool
by Fred on Friday 18/Jan/2008, @23:41

If the rotating transparent cube and the wobbly windows get implemented in kwin, i'm sure 90% of compiz users would switch.

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Re: Cool
by Esben Mose Hansen on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @00:11

Everyone wants wobbly windows! It isn't rational, it is a simply human ;) But keep the wobbling very stiff by default, so as to be noticeably, but no more than that.

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Re: Cool
by Lubos Lunak on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @00:59

Somebody needs to do those :). We decided not to do those for 4.0 because of expected bad gain/effort ratio. They will be probably technically a bit harder to implement than others, and I'm not personally very convinced of their usefulness - e.g. the cube is good for giving non-advanced users a way to grasp the concept of virtual desktops, and for the hype of course (since compositing _is_ the cube, right?), but I was getting motion sickness rather quickly every time I tried to use it, and I had problems to actually find what I was looking for (especially with a higher number of desktops or the additional stuff enabled like cube-from-inside or transparent-cube). So they will be done when somebody finds time to do that, and that can be also you.

PS: The parts about KWin in this commit digest are from KWin's release notes for KDE4.0 : http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4.0-release-notes .

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Re: Cool
by Thomas on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @03:19

Well, it was definitely the right decision to postpone those features, as they're really just eyecandy, nothing more. I love the composite features that are in KDE4.0, but apart from maybe a Vista window switcher (I love that one!), I don't think I need anything else. Please concentrate more on speed, it's way more important IMO!

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Re: Cool
by yman on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @22:11

didn't the Compiz Application Switcher come before the Vista one?

anyway, Wobbly Windows make moving windows around feel much better. it's like the movement is much more... natural.

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Re: Cool
by Bobby on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @02:57

Those were my favourites too + the shiver effect of drop-down menus etc..

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Re: Cool
by Soap on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @08:49

When I set up comiz (or beryl or whatever it was then), I had to use wobbly windows, because it was the only way to get windows to snap to edges. Also, the stiffer the windows, the less they would snap.

That's when I decided KWin was more practical. That wasn't the only reason though, there were also desktop issues, and pager issues, and hotkey issues, etc.

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Re: Cool
by Max on Monday 21/Jan/2008, @12:13

I would!!!

Well I'm using KDE 4.0 already, but I really am missing the: CUBE, EXPOSE, COVERFLOW, MAGIC LAMP

And yes.. Compiz ran smoother on this machine than Kwin does.. I'm patient though.. I know you guys will come around and fix this..

All in due time.. (I hope... :-/ )

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