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Re: what ugly mascots
by Danny Allen on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @18:55
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Obviously a comment from someone not actually at the event: these guys were great, and one of the (many) highlights of the event. And the costumes are technically excellent, and very true to the mascot design.
A mascot is not a logo, and in KDE 4.0 the use of the Konqi mascot throughout the KDE interface has been scaled back for reasons of "professionalism". So what is the issue with keeping a fun and long-serving part of our project alive at events like this?
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Re: what ugly mascots
by T. J. Brumfield on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @19:33
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The costumes don't look extremely professional, but the mascot artwork is pretty nice.
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Re: what ugly mascots
by Troy Unrau on Monday 21/Jan/2008, @15:00
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The costumes were actually professionally designed based only upon konqi/katie artwork that was available on the internet. I had seen photos of their design sessions with the costume designer they used, and they are quite good up close too!
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Re: what ugly mascots
by kwilliam on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @21:22
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(This has nothing to do with the costumes or event, I think that people dressed up as Konqi is an awesome idea!)
I agree with the grandparent about the current Konqi imagery. I think in the same way that the K-gear was improved for KDE 4.0, someone should improve the Konqi mascot for 4.1. The current Konqi looks sadly dated and out of place, and a little cheesy. I'd like to see an SVG remake. Something professional, but fun. I mean, he's a dragon right? Dragons are COOL! Or at least they can be. Konqi could be a big draw for users; I mean, who could resist a desktop environment with a sweet dragon as it's mascot? (Especially when the competing mascots are a window, a foot, and an apple. ;-)
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Re: what ugly mascots
by Danny Allen on Saturday 19/Jan/2008, @21:45
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The "window, a foot, and an apple" are logos, not mascots!
The KDE logo is the K surrounded by a gear that is seen in the bottom left of a KDE desktop and elsewhere.
Danny
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Re: what ugly mascots
by kwilliam on Sunday 20/Jan/2008, @13:37
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Ok, there's a point. Windows and OSX do not have mascots technically, I guess. Would a penguin be Linux's mascot and the little devil (daemon?) be BSD's mascot? Or is the penguin a logo, because there is really only one popular image of him? I apologize for not knowing exactly the difference.
Anyway my point is similar to Richard's point (as expressed in his second post, http://dot.kde.org/1200788475/1200797159/1200799340/1200821861/). However, I'm thinking just about the artwork in the "About KDE" and "Log Out" dialogs. I noticed the Log Out dialog switched from showing Konqi to showing the moon, presumably because the old Konqi "photo" wasn't cool or professional enough. That made me sad, because Konqi is part of KDE's heritage, and dragons are cool. If we can't display him proudly in our artwork, we should update his photograph so he fits in with the Oxygen/Plasma "aura". If Konqi and Katie are 3D models on somebody's computer (the images I've seen of him look like CG) then some inspired people should have a contest to recreate the models in Blender or something similar. Add more detail, such as scales and sub-surface scattering (or whatever 3D artists do these days) to make some sweet, realistic renderings. Just like how Peter Jackson improved King Kong while keeping true to the original's spirit, we could have a more detailed model of Konqi.
I noticed that this 2007 video (http://www.kulma.org/linux/kde/kone.php?categ=anims) portrays Konqi is a sea serpent, which is a nice twist (I think sea dragons are cooler, more like traditional Chinese dragons - and it makes Konqi seem more international). There's no reason Konqi couldn't be a sea serpent, or have bigger wings, etc., as long has he keeps the "green, friendly dragon" concept.
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Re: what ugly mascots
by Yuriy Kozlov on Tuesday 22/Jan/2008, @13:21
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Konqi is a blender model: http://www.kulma.org/linux/kde/kone.php?categ=model
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Re: what ugly mascots
by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Thursday 24/Jan/2008, @05:04
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Apple's unofficial mascot is Clarus the Dogcow. Tux the Penguin is both Linux's logo and mascot. Windows doesn't have a mascot (unless you count Clippy). On the other hand, most colleges and universities have both mascots and logos, as do sports teams. I'd say KDE's use lines up pretty much with the university use... for promotional events and things like clothing and toys, the mascot is used. For identification (for instance, login and logout screens), the logo is used.
By the way, I saw Kandalf recently off to the side of the road with a handlettered sign "Will mascot for bandwidth". Very sad.
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