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Plasma in Dolphin / Icon overlays
by josh on Friday 01/Feb/2008, @16:41
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First off, the KDE4 K3B port looks amazing!
I was wondering about the icon overlays that were mentioned in the "KDE 4.1 Feature Plan": http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Feature_Plan
This means *ALL* icons will have the overlay not just the ones on the desktop? Does this mean Plasmoids are actually going to be inside Dolphin? |
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Re: Plasma in Dolphin / Icon overlays
by Skeith on Friday 01/Feb/2008, @20:35
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The overlay for desktop icons will have features that the Dolphin overlay wouldn't need, like resizing and rotating. Chances are they'll be separate overlays anyway, since it would be silly to have a Plasma dependency in Dolphin.
Also nice to see that Raptor is confirmed (to be aiming) for 4.1, I'm excited to see it action with the plans they have for it.
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Re: Plasma in Dolphin / Icon overlays
by Lee on Saturday 02/Feb/2008, @04:05
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I don't see why a feature like rotation is necessary in one place, but not in others. Besides, it generally shows better design when features are orthogonal to where they're used.
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Re: Plasma in Dolphin / Icon overlays
by Peter Penz on Saturday 02/Feb/2008, @03:28
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> This means *ALL* icons will have the overlay not
> just the ones on the desktop?
No, currently we just try finding a solution for Dolphin/Konqueror to select files in the single-click mode in an easy way. It has not been decided yet about adding other overlays too (from the current point of view I'd say that there is no need for this). BTW: this feature can also be turned off...
> Does this mean Plasmoids are actually going to be inside Dolphin?
Technically no, but for sure we'll try to stay consistent from the look and feel where it makes sense. Plasma raises the bar for applications making things visually handsome :-)
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Re: Plasma in Dolphin / Icon overlays
by MamiyaOtaru on Saturday 02/Feb/2008, @23:05
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I think this is a solution to a non-problem. I mean, what use is selecting something if you don't then do something with it? (drag, copy, delete etc). All the possible actions one could want to take are available in the right click menu. Including (potentially) right click -> select, if you really do just want to select a file and then do nothing with it.
I'd prefer to leave the whole icon available for opening the file, and if one wants to take a specific other action, right click.
And besides, one can already easily select (and then do nothing with) an icon in single click mode. If in detailed list view, click anywhere on its row except for its name (it in blank space next to name, on the date etc). There was a justified bug report made when things were changes to a single click anywhere on the row opened the file and it was changed back and works now as well as before. If in icon view, lasso a single icon.
The old ways are a bit clunky, but are they broken enough to cut the target size of an icon to a third when the right click menu does everything one would need? I mean seriously, hover over an icon then select "actions"? I doubt many KDE users are going to be using old one button apple mice.
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Re: Plasma in Dolphin / Icon overlays
by logixoul on Sunday 03/Feb/2008, @06:58
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I strongly disagree. I find it a lot easier to press the Del key than aim at the delete option in the context menu. Muscle memory.
That said, the icon-overlay solution sounds too clunky and I'm pretty sure using it wouldn't be fun. Actually, my ideal selection method would be middleclicking.
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