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kde for windows?
by knifemonkey on Sunday 03/Feb/2008, @17:15
no matter how hard it tries, windows just is not linux. and when linux tries to be windows, well, it just uses WINE. The funny thing is that ultimately one of these operating systems is superior and yet people and developers still waste their time and our security and enjoyment by supporting windows. I would like to say 'there can only be one' but that is not true, there will always be underdogs, like beos, windows however, I believe, with a little effort, will be wiped from the face of the earth and looked back apon only as a bad memory (0x05637e) from the time when micro$oft ruled our right to software freedom. KDE for windows?! Cool! Let people know how sweet linux managers are before giving them the real thing. and if this is not there thing show them bblean instead :) just my educated point of view i aint no flamer or prophet...

p.s. do something good for the environment.
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Re: kde for windows?
by JRT on Sunday 03/Feb/2008, @20:12
You have to remember that Windows is not an OS, it includes an OS which was called NT and is based on DIGITAL VMS. Microsoft sells "Windows Services for UNIX" which allows UNIX applications (NOT GUI) to run on an NT based Windows system. So it isn't really correct to say that the problem is that Windows isn't Linux.

The problem comes with running GUI applications in a windowed environment. AFAWK, MS-Windows doesn't use X11 for its windowed environment. MS-Windows is all bolted together so we really don't know how modular it is, but I doubt that it is. IAC, we don't know how to interface with it. So, the only possibility appears to be that which WINE uses. which is to convert Windows calls into X11 calls. This doesn't seem to be the ideal design, but I don't know if building a parallel windowed environment that could run concurrently with X11 would even be possible -- are MS-Windows and X11 too different to ever coexist?
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