Re: What !!!???

faq
flatforty
contribute
subscribe
configure
search
rdf

main
parent
thread

Re: What !!!???
by Paul Eggleton on Monday 04/Feb/2008, @11:57

> intrinsically unstable

No, it isn't.

> I am talking about laptops here

FWIW, I just spent a week running Linux with KDE 3 (Kubuntu 7.10) on my laptop with no trouble, including many, many suspend/resume cycles, wifi usage, etc. For the record, my laptop is a Toshiba. Just because you have had issues doesn't mean the majority of others do as well.

Related Links

·   Articles on KDE Advocacy, Discussions, and Rumors
·   Also by Paul Eggleton
·   Contact author

The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whomever posted them.
( Reply )

Re: What !!!???
by Bob on Monday 04/Feb/2008, @15:22

Good for you if K7.10 is working on your hardware. Unfortunately, most forums prove that you belong to an exclusive minority. I know that there are some Toshibas which work but others don't. I had the chance to check out certain models from Sony, Acer, HP, FSC and Compaq. All of them had (Linux) issues: mostly suspend/resume, sometimes wireless. I vaguely remember warnings about a certain HP desktop series which would not allow Linux to be installed. HP customer service reportedly had no clue.

But we all know or heard about these problems already, just some of us won't admit that too easily ;-)

[ Reply To This | View ]

Re: What !!!???
by Paul Eggleton on Monday 04/Feb/2008, @16:18

I never said there weren't problems. I do however object to broad generalisations such as the ones you made since I do not believe them to be generally correct.

[ Reply To This | View ]

Re: What !!!???
by John C. on Monday 04/Feb/2008, @15:30

In my experience, you don't really appreciate how good Windows really is and how hard it is to make a global consumer OS until you try one of these so called "easy" desktop-oriented Linux distributions.

Linux is an OK system for servers. On desktops, it plain sucks. Yes, it is unstable, it's slower than Windows, it lacks quality apps, and hardware support is a pain.

But I guess Windows is a dying platform... in an alternate reality.

[ Reply To This | View ]

Re: What !!!???
by Paul Eggleton on Monday 04/Feb/2008, @16:22

The statement that Windows is a "dying platform" is pretty absurd, I agree.

Other than that, would you care to provide some basis for your assertions?

[ Reply To This | View ]

Re: What !!!???
by John C. on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @00:15

I don't think I have to provide hard proof about lack of hardware and ISV's support. Also, the few third party drivers and applications that exist, are ridicuously hard to install. As for the rest, as I said, that is just my experience with both systems. Since XP was out, I've never experienced a Windows crash and Vista is equally rock-solid. On the other hand, I've had quite a few with Linux. As for the desktop experience, I've never seen a Linux desktop quite as responsive as Windows is (and Vista on good hardware is no exception, by the way).

Linux has the upper hand when it comes to desktop features though: window management and built-in virtual desktops are far better in KDE. But that's about it.

[ Reply To This | View ]

Re: What !!!???
by Amara Emerson on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @03:01

I would disagree with that. I use Linux and Windows daily. I prefer Linux but to do my work in development I have to use XP Pro on my laptop. No matter what I do, after a few hours of uptime on my laptop the process "System" begins to use 100% CPU, heats the laptop to death and causes it to almost lock up.

On the other hand, running large BT downloads can be done on Linux for days, even weeks at a time with no need for a reboot. The system is just as fast and responsive after all that time. It just seems for me, that with the poor memory management of Windows in comparison with Linux (why windows needs to use 250mb of swap when theres over 200mb RAM free I don't know) the desktop is generally more responsive than Windows.

I can't dump Windows yet, and I will admit that on my hardware battery life is better with XP, but if I had a choice I would work soley in Linux.

[ Reply To This | View ]

The Fine Print: The previous comments are owned by whomever posted them.
( Reply )


		"KDE: The news ticker with integrated desktop environment." -- Frerich Raabe
KDE®, "K Desktop Environment", "KDE Dot News", "got the dot?" and the KDE Logo® are trademarks or registered trademarks of KDE e.V. in the European Union, the United States and other countries. All other trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the poster. The rest: Copyright © 2000-2008 KDE e.V. for The KDE Project. For further information or comments on this site, please contact the Webmaster.