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faster release cycle
by KDE User on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:16
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Can we have a new release faster than March? I think we need a better KDE4 out now or sooner.
At least when Miguel released GNOME, he did something like weekly releases until GNOME was less broken?
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Re: faster release cycle by
Troy Unrau on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:19
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Re: faster release cycle by
sebas on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:56
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Re: faster release cycle by
Jonathan Thomas on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:59
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Re: faster release cycle by
T. J. Brumfield on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @14:18
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Re: faster release cycle by
Ian Monroe on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @15:51
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Re: faster release cycle by
Anand Vaidya on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @21:05
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Re: faster release cycle by
Uwe Thiem on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @22:55
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Re: faster release cycle by
winter on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @04:20
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Re: faster release cycle by
woogs on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @10:21
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Re: faster release cycle - Release cycle is fine by
John S on Thursday 07/Feb/2008, @11:53
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nice!
by weintor on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:16
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Nice to see a quickly development on KDE4. I'll hope to use it as my diary desktop very soon!!! I see a lot of bugfixes in this realeased. Good work!!!
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wonderful
by pete on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:50
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i am now on the suse live cd with the new and shiny 4.01. and i am impressed . i need to have a deeper second look , but so far i like what i see .
the only crash i had was with gwenview . congratz to all the kde developers for the hard work , and good luck with the further releases ;-)
this is a new milestone on the unixdesktop !
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I like it!
by Jonathan Thomas on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:57
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Plasmoids are now way better at noticing when my mouse is no longer over it. Separating the resize button from the rotate button was also a good idea. Some other really annoying bugs were also fixed. (It was especially annoying when I missed new IMs because the taskbar entry for the app didn't flash...
It's nice to see some Kwin lovin' in there too. Heck, it's good to see bug fixes all over the place, but the two areas I mentioned are where the fixes are most visible. :P
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Already in Rawhide
by Kevin Kofler on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @12:57
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KDE 4.0.1 is already in Fedora Rawhide.
Rex Dieter will have builds for Fedora 7 and 8 available in the unstable section of the kde-redhat repository in the next few days.
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Very nice work, thanks a lot!
by David on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @13:02
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Very nice work indeed. I built KDE4 from svn yesterday and compared to what It was 2-3 weeks ago, it has improved a LOT in many areas! You can really feel the polish.
It is indeed nice looking (oxygen improved a lot imho, especially in contrast issues) and functional.
Cheers to all involved devs. You really laid the groundstone of something with a bright future here. (at least in my living room, that's for sure.
We all love screens, right?:
http://www.vidsolbach.de/tmp/kde4.png/
David
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anybody tried the opensuse 10.3 version?
by Gerry on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @13:52
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I've just 1-clicked it, all seemed to install over 4.0, but now get a perfectly white blank desktop. :(
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QT 4.4 and Domino
by T. J. Brumfield on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @14:22
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How much will QT 4.4 and Alien improve performance?
And will some kind soul port over Domino to KDE 4? Maybe even somewhat of a cross breed between Oxygen and Domino? And these two improvements to Domino?
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino+menu+hack+for+Beryl+shadows?content=72631
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino+Mockup?content=72412
The day I can configure KDE 4 to look and operate the way I want is the day I use it for my desktop.
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When will Kubuntu have ports?
by Richaard on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @14:44
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When will the Kubuntu versions be available?
Will KDE 4.0.2, or 4.0.3 make it into Kubuntu 8.04?
Will they finally have some custom touches to it, the way openSuSE brands their flavor of KDE?
Somebody please point me to answers.
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fast!
by mxttie on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @14:48
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you are really keeping pace, guys! congratulations!
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Plasma backports
by cedric on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @15:06
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I'm a little bit disappointed that the panel resize and positioning thingies didn't make it into 4.0.1.
But hey, at least the white Background on every login disappeared :)
Keep on the great work, Konquies.
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Google plasmoids? / Google 3rd party apps?
by Max on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @15:12
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Does anybody have an idea how we could get google to write plasmoids that would integrate the google tools with KDE 4.0?
I'd love to (automatically) synchronize google calendar with KDE calendaring applications/display them on the desktop, etc. Same for google maps, Gmail, etc.
Rather than using precious development time of the KDE development team, I would love for google themselves to do it. (since they're most likely will benefit the most from it, and might make some extra money with ad revenue *hint, hint*)
I looked all over google, but couldn't find an email address anywhere, or some sort of "suggestion box". Could readers please point me in the right direction?
If interested, also vote for google to write these 3rd party apps?
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Great!
by Whoever on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @22:39
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Congratulations to the developers and keep up! Cheers!
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So much khtml goodness.
by Hairy Groundhog on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @22:53
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So much khtml goodness. Are you preparing for the khtml vs. webkit deathmatch? Is it actually decided yet that webkit will be implemented for kde 4.1?
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Impressive
by LB on Tuesday 05/Feb/2008, @23:56
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Wow, the number of changes are very impressive, especially pim3.5.9 and khtml4.0.1. Cool!!!
BTW; does anybody knows what rendering engine KDE4Live is using by default. It's extremely fast! I like it so much that I prefer browsing in a KDE4Live virtual machine, instead of my physical box.
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Kopete
by RJ on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @00:25
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Does anyone have a problem with msn not connecting on kopete. I've had this problem since the 4 came out. aim, icq, yahoo connect, but msn wont
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backport khtml fixes to 3.5
by Michael Daum on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @02:06
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First of all let me join congratulating KDE for the great work and your vital development.
One question I have wrt 3.5: is it possible to backport some oft the most annoying khtml bugs from 4.0.x to 3.5, please, i.e. those related to textareas. There are some bad regression errors which almost made me switch from konqueror to firefox as my daily browser.
Thx anyway.
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still ...
by adrian on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @02:42
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i'm disappointed by the course kde4 has taken. by now it's the first bugfix release and kde4 is - for me at last - still horribly broken. i need a proxy to get into the shiny world of interwebs but that one core feature is still broken (unknown error, known in bugs.kde.org). which makes kde4 pretty much useless for me - webwise. plasma still has that don't-touch-i-might-fall-apart feel to it, global shortcuts (alt-f2 or win-r for krunner) don't work - what's that zoom feature and why the heck do i get that instead of a slim but stable desktop.
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Youtube / google video / etc.
by Max on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @11:27
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I think we need to get the most creative people on here to make some
USER GENERATED VIDEOS showing off the functionality of Plasma/Plasmoids, etc.
Like not just the basics, some off the wall cutting edge stuff. Make it fun to watch too.
People learn visually, and by doing.
I think this is the success of Apple's products. Rather than include a boring instruction manual, all the features are showed off at the keynote and through various Youtube and similar videos.
I think this would help create more buzz about KDE 4.0 too. Too many people think KDE 4.0 is a static big (screen real-estate wasting) task-bar at the bottom and a few "icons." We need to change that perception. Eye-candy (visual wow factor!!) is what sells people to Linux/KDE. Compiz fusion was the reason I switched to Linux, I'll admit it.
What do you guys think?
Maybe some contest?*
This could increase awareness and have some modders join the KDE ranks.
To all the developers: Great job so far on the features. You really did great work!!
We still have a long road ahead of us. Don't give up/slow down yet.
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* the prize could be bragging rights for the most customized desktop.
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KDE 4.0.1
by Michael on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @11:52
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Tried out the Kubuntu packages. Getting slowly better but still not really usable. By far the worst thing for me are those stupid semi-transparent boxes behinf every icon. And without any ability to create (labeled) containments for multiple icons there isnt that much advantage for me in contrast to KDE 3.5. Though I must admit it's quite cool to be able to put a Dilbert comic on your desktop and even rotate it freely.
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Thank you
by KDEuser on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @12:31
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Thank you for keeping KDE3.5.n alive.
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Still the same broken development method.
by JRT on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @21:14
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> The KDE 4.0 branch receives regular updates, including bugfixes in trunk/
> which are backported to the KDE 4.0 branch
So, we are back to this. :-(
This method is one of the issues with KDE quality problems. Bugs reported against the current release should first be fixed on the release branch and then the fix should be applied to TRUNK. There are many valid reasons to do it this way (most significant to me is that it is easier to properly fix the bug in stable code) and nobody seems to be able to come up with any reason to do it the way we do. "It works in TRUNK" is not a reason to close a bug unless the bug was reported against TRUNK.
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Clear list of requirements?
by chepati on Wednesday 06/Feb/2008, @21:37
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With the previous KDE generations every release had a "requires or benefits from ..." list of external software/libraries. For example, for 3.5.x this list is at http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.5.php. For 4.x, however, we have a wiki: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4, which is too distro-specific. I'm running LFS (Linux from Scratch) which does not fit into any of the "recipes"
I'd rather have the old-style listing.
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mouse double click
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Thursday 07/Feb/2008, @05:07
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Does the fix for using double click get into 4.0.1?
I never use single click and in 4.0.0 setting to double click had two major problems:
a) plasma didn't knew about new configuration without restarting whole kde session
b) double click didn't worked at all
I tested and it just looks the smae on 4.0.1 in kubuntu :(
But maybe it's distro-specific or configuration problem.
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Konqueror / CSS: Some progess, but still...
by Planetzappa on Thursday 07/Feb/2008, @05:26
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Just a quick feedback: Konqueror from KDE 4.0.1 now shows http://www.kde.org correctly (my 4.0.0 installation didn't) but http://www.spiegel.de still does not work (i.e. all boxes are rendered vertically, making the page totally unusable).
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AMAROK news?
by John S on Thursday 07/Feb/2008, @11:36
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What's the news on Amarok?
The program has a great following at our University. Students as well as techers prefer it over iTunes and it's great under Linux.
We can't wait for the Windows and Mac versions!!
We'd love to see more of KDE ported to Windows and Mac. We're stuck with Windows and Mac OS-X machines in the computer labs, but would love to install KDE and Plasma on top of that.
Is there going to be an iPhone/iPod Touch port of Amarok?
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common people, join the fun!!
by eMPee584 on Thursday 07/Feb/2008, @15:30
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@everyone who knows a bit of C++..
instead of writing rants here on the dot or waiting for someone to fix a bug.. get the sources from SVN and have a look! I myself started to fix some of the small strange glitches myself and the KDE sources are really nicely documented, with superb API docs, so START HACKING ON IT TODAY! Every bug you fix, god resurrects a kitten! And it's fun, too :)
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Retardovision Panel
by ritardo on Friday 08/Feb/2008, @03:10
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The panel is just awful!
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tab change with mouse scroll
by hitchhacker on Saturday 09/Feb/2008, @00:16
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KDE 4.0 is really amazing. One problem I've been having in KDE is that you cannot move between tabs with a scroll wheel. This has been in Gnome and is a very handy feature - just place the mouse on top of a tab and scroll over it to go to the next tab. This is what I've been looking for in successive KDE releases and is a gauge I use to measure if KDE is responsive to user requests. I'm surprised KDE4 doesn't have this. Are there any plans to include this feature in 4.0.2 or 4.1?
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tab change on mouse scroll
by hitchhacker on Saturday 09/Feb/2008, @00:35
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KDE 4.0 is great! One important feature often overlooked by KDE guys is the changing of tabs by scrolling over them. Gnome has had this feature for ages and is extremely handy. Amazingly, konsole has this feature (the tabs change by just scrolling over them), so it is technically possible. Can't this feature be adopted from konsole to apply to the whole of KDE4. Can we see this feature in 4.0.2 or 4.1?
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New compositioning effects?
by Steve on a Sony on Sunday 10/Feb/2008, @23:43
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Any new compositioning effects with that release?
(for my fast "daily-driver" machine. I realize on a 600mhz machine it won't work.. :) )
It's really cool that finally something similar to Compiz-fusion exists under KDE.
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Gwenview issues
by hitchhacker on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @06:52
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There are several annoying things in gwenview.
1) Double clicking on a photo thumbnail should open it (in full screen). As it stands, e.g. in browse view, nothing happens when you double click. Instead, when you hover over it, some icons popup which include open in fullscreen. IMHO, double clicking it should just do the same thing.
2) Apparently, Gwenview does not scale photos to fit the screen or window and does not even have an option in its settings to enable/disable this feature. This is very annoying since one would think that opening a photo in full-screen mode would scale that photo to fit the screen instead of showing it at actual size! At least put an option to enable the scaling (with different algorithms e.g. linear, bicubic, etc).
3) There is a slight flaw in thumbnailing. As it stands, generation of thunbnails of a large photo collection in browse view is sequential. What I mean is, it tends to thumbnail images one after the other and even when you've scrolled down, it takes a lot of time for it to catch up to your screen as it is still processing those already passed. I think gwenview would appear more responsive if the thumbnailing was user centric and generate those that are in the screen as a priority to those not being see. Just a side note, does gwenview utilize the Qt concurrency thingy?? In the age of multicore, thumbnailing would really benefit from this concurrency.
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file open dialog
by slither on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @08:19
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Several things here.
1) Should always open file in relevant app e.g. Fileopen in kate and you select an mp3 file (not text), instead of giving you garbage & telling you its a binary file, why not open the relevat app e.g. amarok2, if associated with the mime type or ask. After opening in that app maintain the original file-open dialog.
2) File-open dialog should take most of the screen realestate IMO. Look, it is a blocking dialog & you are not going to be using the app while its open. Its better to have most (if not all) of the screen real-estate for such a temporary task as opening a file so as to make it natural. The tiny default size is a relic of the old days when widescreens didn't exist and the maximum resolution was 640x480.
You see, we must assume that we are dealing with users who who want things done, not the processes of getting them done. This user does not know (nor care) about mimetypes or binary/text stuff. He/she knows that a file called 'sales forecasts' contains what he/she wants. This historic assumption should be corrected.
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dolphin
by panther on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @08:22
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Why not make the information & places panes appear by default?? Its not like they are not useful and there is no need of hiding useful functionality.
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dolphin search
by iguana on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @08:25
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There is a feature that has been available for ages in windows and is extremely handy. Why isnt there a search in the context menu of dolphin. What I mean is, you right click a folder in dolphin and there is a search entry in the context menu to allow for a blind search from that folder. Blind searches are very important and even when akonadi (strigi??) arrives, such a feature is very important, just integrate with it and relegate the blind search.
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my computer / my system
by gunner on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @08:29
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It would be really nice if there would be a system: protocol to show the available devices and such much like the my computer in windoze or that in gnome. This would be really handy especially for new users. Also, when the devices/volumes are displayed, why isnt there a graph widget like that in gnome showing you the percentage of the volume/drive in use!
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printing
by gunner on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @08:30
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i know printing is a bit off, but is there a way of making the print dialog also configure things like both-sides printing and print tray selection, stapling, enveloping, etc?
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independent sound
by sinnneer on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @08:32
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Is independent application volume control in the offing, maybe in 4.1? This is very nifty and would make kde4 compete well against vista/osx. Pulseaudio as a backend dos a really good job but the devs seem to prefer gnome for the client apps.
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proxy support still broken
by Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy on Tuesday 12/Feb/2008, @14:26
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pity, but I will have to wait till 4.0.2 till actually trying it out.
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Slow
by Artem S. Tashkinov on Wednesday 13/Feb/2008, @12:39
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Windows resizing is very slow, KWin special effects with the onboard GeForce 6150 are slow (latest proprietary NVIDIA drivers + dual core CPU), some of them are just plain buggy and unfinished, too few usable applications, too few settings.
Besides I (AND AN HORDE OF KDE USERS) WANT SMOOTH SCROLLING in EVERY scrollable control be it a list or a Konqueror Internet page. MS did that in 1997 with release of Windows 98, in Linux TEN YEARS LATER we still do NOT have it. It's VERY PITY.
I hope KDE 4.1 will be much better.
Anyway KDE4 rocks as nothing else on the Earth. Thank you developers for your hard work!
I'm peacefully awaiting for KDE 3.5.9.
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Thanking the KDE team...
by Tamara R. on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @22:48
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I finally got around to installing 4.0.1... I was hesitant because I've seen a lot of criticism. I was expecting an unusable trainwreck, but I've found it to be quite nice. To be sure, it's rough around the edges and many of the concerns expressed here are valid. It's not a final product, but it has exceeded my expectations for a .0 OSS project.
I don't know if I will be using it fulltime as my desktop right now, I'll have to tool around a bit to see... but I can already see the positive direction KDE is headed, and I want to thank the KDE team for their work.
I can't wait to see where this all ends up. =)
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I have a question about the desktop icons on KDE4
by dum on Friday 29/Feb/2008, @14:18
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I have a question about the desktop icons.
I don't really like the way Desktop icons are projected. They are widgets without any right mouse actions. And no way to delete the file.
When I use the desktop normaly I put everything that I'm using or downloading on the desktop and delete it later or move it to the right location. In KDE 4 I can't do that, when i delete a deskop icon (widget) I only delete the widget not the file. so that ****, now I have to open /home/my_name:)/Desktop to edit/delete my desktop items.
I would like to see my old desktop icon behavior back... With or without widgets I don't care. Do anyone know if this desktop icon behavior will be altered?
beside of the icon behavior The KDE 4 desktop will be a beatiful desktop but at the moment it is not yet my desktop of choice, that is for now KDE 3.5.9 :D
My english is not that good... :( sorry.
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