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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Jonathan Thomas on Saturday 09/Feb/2008, @11:14
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Feel free to remove it if you want. ;) I think there are some tutorials on the internet for removing the panel. The beauty of Plasma is that you can do whatever you want with your desktop.
I don't think that the majority of KDE users would want to go without it, though.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Beat Wolf on Saturday 09/Feb/2008, @11:19
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thanks to plasma and the new panel you are free to remove the taskbar whenever you want (or put it somewhere else, or have 10 tasbars or whatever)
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Soap on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @05:50
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But with Kicker, you can't remove the panel outright. There's always got to be one.
Anyway, the task bar is there for people that use the mouse more: if your hand's already on the mouse, it should be faster than using the keyboard. It's also good for giving a familiar environment to people, and showing possibility to switch tasks without seeing the window to complete newbs.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Aldoo on Saturday 09/Feb/2008, @11:24
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I almost agree, but some UI elements are best kept always visible, and not only on dashboard. In particular the systray which displays useful notifications and features. The clock also might be best visible.
In the late days of KDE 3, I had no more task bar (well in fact I had a not-so-useful autohidable avant-window-navigator). I choose to have instead a minimalist top bar with the systray, the clock, and the application menu (ŕ la MacOS) and some other less important elements (like the K menu). No wasted space, since that bar had no free pixel and contained only useful stuff.
Well, I like keeping space for things that matter (the currently used application). In KDE4.0, that big unresizable panel hurts me, but well, it will soon become more customizable.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Flavio on Sunday 10/Feb/2008, @08:58
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That's exactly what I do myself. We have to admit that Apple got it right.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Luciano on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @01:18
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Hey, me too! With my shallow-monitor lapotop, vertical space is a premium, and I found I've never used the taskbar anyway... so it had to go. It is now an autohide panel on the right... I'd like to geet rid of that too. Somehow, the menu panel cannot be the only panel anymore. I think it used to work, but no more in KDE 3.5.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Chani on Saturday 09/Feb/2008, @22:22
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personally I have a taskbar with the current desktop's windows on my panel, and a taskbar with all windows on my desktop. :) I've gone back to having the systray on the panel again.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by reihal on Saturday 09/Feb/2008, @23:57
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Have it both ways: Auto-hide.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by MichaelG on Sunday 10/Feb/2008, @03:22
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>>Or do I oversee somethink
... dude. I'm german myself, but that's an embarrassing one. Seriously.
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=en&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed§Hdr=on&spellToler=on&search=oversee&relink=on
You wanted to say "Or do i MISS somethinGGG".
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Kevin Kofler on Sunday 10/Feb/2008, @09:15
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Or "overlook", which is based on the same idea as the German word, and actually means almost the same thing (unlike "oversee" which is indeed something completely different).
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Max on Sunday 10/Feb/2008, @12:57
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Yea, add other options for the taskbar.
Have people be able to customize it. (make it thinner..)
as I said before: LONG LIVE CUSTOMIZATION!!!
Somebody please post videos on YouTube on how to do it for newbies.
Also please post feature show-off's.
-Max
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Vitaly Shishakov on Sunday 10/Feb/2008, @17:13
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No Way! KDE Taskbar rules!
for example, in KDE3 I used to have it in upper-left corner, going down as a simple list, which comes on top when i navigate to upper-left corner, without any preview widows or stuff. having sometimes 20-30 windows open (Matlab and lots of Matlab graphs + KDevelop + 2-3 Konsoles, + 2-3 Konquerors + Kolourpaint + Kontact + Kopete + something else) is my usual desktop. and -- i never use window grouping -- having ALL windwos listed and sorted by applications is very handy and accessible (see attach).
The most admiring feature for me is... rolling MouseWheel over such taskbar -- for example -- while working in Matlab it allows me to navigate numerous open Figures very quickly!
Using manual plasma_appletsrc edit i tried to make something similar in KDE 4.0.1, but Vertical Taskbar looks awfull there -- it's items tend to be 200px high!, and then, after 30th window, they open 2nd column. I dont want to see large application icons in taskbar -- i preffer to see window titles' list instead! Even if there will be no GUI for configuring this, as it was used to be in KDE3 (I use Extended Taskbar there) -- I'd like to have ability to configure it manually in config files!
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by Max on Monday 11/Feb/2008, @09:57
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I like the taskbar, but it's not revolutionary by any means.
It has been around since before Windows 95 (PC tools, IIRC), and then popularized with Windows 95. So 13 years!!
Shouldn't we come up with some more useable alternative? There has to be some novel idea out there, that increases productivity, yet preserves screen Real Estate.
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Re: Remove the Taskbar
by JRT on Wednesday 13/Feb/2008, @14:49
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Please note that the TaskBar is an applet. So, I presume that this is about the panel.
The reason that you need a panel is so that you can get to things while you have a maximized window covering the DeskTop. Actually, I have several.
Note that widgets would be more useful if there was a way to bring individual ones to the top with a hot spot on the edge of the screen (like hidden panels in KDE-3).
So, please keep the panel. I hope to see hide and auto-hide as well as child panels in the near future.
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