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Thanks for another digest!
by Digest Reader on Saturday 16/Feb/2008, @14:18
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Danny, you rock!
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New KMail maintainer
by Inge Wallin on Saturday 16/Feb/2008, @14:34
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It would be interesting to know the story behind that.
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Mono
by karma on Saturday 16/Feb/2008, @17:49
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Not particularly thrilled about Mono bindings... but that's okay as long as you won't start rewriting core desktop modules in C# (gnome anybody?)
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Wow
by 0xA734 on Saturday 16/Feb/2008, @19:52
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I was just talking to my friend a few days ago and saying, "I can't wait until they implement dragging plasmoids from the desktop to the panel."
Amazing that its done! I really can't wait for 4.1!
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When I'll Make the Switch
by yman on Saturday 16/Feb/2008, @23:03
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Right now I'm using GNOME, and I like it. Here's when I'll likely switch to KDE4:
- When the new KDE-PIM and KOffice are released.
- When I can get Auto-Scrolling turned on, especially in Konqueror.
- When Konqueror has "Undo Close Tab".
- When Konqueror saves and reopens my tabs, even if all power is suddenly cut off.
- When I can reorganize the plasmoids in the panel through drag-and-drop.
This isn't a complaint list, or a wish list, or anything else of the sort. It's a collection of anecdotal information I think someone out there might find interesting. And I do know that at least 4 of the above are either being worked on anyway, or are already ready.
I think that I'll be switching to KDE4 when 4.2 comes out. The reason is that the stuff that is planned for 4.1 probably won't all be ready on time (after all, stuff that was planned for 4.0 was put off till 4.1), and what will be shipped probably won't be feature complete or 100% polished.
I realize that if I wait till KDE4 is "ready" then I'll only be able to use the last release to ever come out. I think that 4.2 is a good personal goal for me.
I want to use only KDE4 and it's apps, and nothing else. To me the important apps are Krita, Karbon14, Amarok (never even touched it, but from what I've seen, I think I'll like it), Kaffein (never even seen it), Konqueror, KMail, and Kopete. Then in the realm of uselessly wasting time, I also like Konquest (are the AIs working finally?), and would like to use KPatience, especially if it's harder than AisleRiot and doesn't have the weird limitation of only going through the fountain 3 times.
BTW, may I mention that the KDE4 card games look terrifically awesome?
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Bluetooth
by Emil Sedgh on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @00:59
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Is the new KBluetooth going to be Solid Based?
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Konqueror and Quick Launch enhancement
by okparanoid on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @01:51
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Hello all !
Thanks a lot for the great job with Kde4. It's amazing and i think than it's a revolution for the Desktop and free sofware. I think that in some months and with the usability increasing with the coming of 4.1 or 4.2 people will more easily switching from windows and i will encourage my friends to do that.
I'm a every day user of KDE 4.0 and for me the mosts annoyings things in working with it is the usability of Konqueror or Dolphin. Which are both promising too however.
Some very useful functionality are missing like cut and paste files (i can cut but can't paste ?!), don't have the "move to" action with the popup menu when i right click (and other missing actions like archive functionality) and more annoying when i do the right click the file is automatically open (is it a bug ?).
In a other way i was thinking of the best way to have a quick launch feature for favorites apps.
Is it possible to have an other panel, dedicated or not for quick launch action (after all it can be use for other functionnality), in the left of the Desktop (a vertical panel). This Panel will appear when the mouse come to the left board of the panel only when we need it to use it, so it is not invasive for the screen.
So we can have a lot of icons for launch apps whe can reach with just one click.
I think that it would be great to increase the "user experience".
Best regards
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How's KDM?
by Parminder Ramesh on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @02:05
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One of the KDE components that as yet remains little changed in KDE4 is KDM. I know that GNOME & Ubuntu have great things planned for GDM. For anyone who hasn't seen, their mockup for a new "face browser" looks amazing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/GdmFaceBrowser
Will it be possible to implement something similar to this in KDM using good ol' Plasma? It would also be cool to have some widgets on your login screen e.g. a clock, liquid weather. Are any such plans in the works?
Also, I loved the Digest and I was especially interested in the KDiamond story (Plasma article was also great reading). Thanks everybody!
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what's the poin
by anon on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @02:37
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what's the point in a kde digest that is 6 days past the release of it, when another update should be available tomorrow. Perhaps if you cannot get it out in a more timely matter you should get some help. Seems pointless posting this so long after the commit.
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Off-Topic - Help with desktop effects
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @02:43
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I know this isn't the right place, but as this problem is kde4 related let's see if someone can help me out :)
The problem I have is that I'm using a HP w17e widescreen LCD monitor with a Intel 950 card in my machine. For the resolution to work well (getting widescreen on the native 1400x900 resolution) I have to use krandr. This is no problem exept that KDM gets a lower resolution and when KDE session starts it goes to the better one.
The problem is that when I enable desktop effects alltogether with krandr, screen isn't updated right. I change options on the dialogs and the old options are shown, some icons and text do not appear, taskbar is always showing the same apps over time, etc.
This seems to happen in compiz+gnome also, so I was wondering if someone here knows about this problem and have a fix?
You know, I got this new PC just for running kde4 with desktop effects :(
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Cool
by T on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @03:42
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I'm impressed by the across-the-board improvements. Just to (arbitrarily) pick one of many, backporting the 4.1 Plasma fixes to 4.0 is a generous donation of time from all. Thanks, developers/translators/bug reporters/artists/etc.!
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A side note about KDiamond
by Stefan Majewsky on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @04:05
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The screenshot shown in the digest is already outdated, a current one is available at: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDiamond?content=74922
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One or two things missing
by Richard Van Den Boom on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @05:51
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Well, contrary to Sebastian above, there are definitely some features I would like to see re-implemented in KDE4.
I've been using KDE 4.0.62 several hours to do my usual work on it and noticed some stuff I really miss :
- I use quite a lot the "Copy to" and "Move to" entries in the contextual menus in Konqueror, especially when browsing FTP sites. Having the possibility to browse through my entire tree to select the target is an extremely handy feature IMO. To my dismay, this does not seem to be available in either Dolphin or Konqueror anymore, and this is really a shame, as I find this feature much more useful than KGet.
- The Google/Wikipedia/etc search menu in Konq has really become for me a must have, and I find it really sad that it's not available yet.
- Having the possibility to have a specific wallpaper for each virtual desktop is not just an aesthetic feature : it allows you to know all the time on which desktop you are without even thinking.
- I've seen that the taskbar can be resized in height (good) but I really hope that in the end, it can also be resize in width. With 16:9 screens, I really appreciate to be able to contentrate the taskbar in a reduced width.
- It seems to me that it is possible to change the default file manager from Dolphin to Konqueror. Unfortunately, I've not found yet how to do that. And that's too bad as after using both, I definitely prefer Konq as a file manager.
On the plus side, now that I can use composite, I must say that I really like the Expose and Desktop Grid effect : fast and efficient. :-)
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Global Key to launching app
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @06:46
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One of the features I liked most in KDE3 was the hability to set a global key shortcut to any app in the menu.
Is there plans to bring this feature back into kde4 or it is out for "good"?
I miss opening dlphin with win+e ;)
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Since Peter is so responsive....
by Leo S on Sunday 17/Feb/2008, @11:07
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Can I add my pet request for Dolphin? ;)
When I have a directory open in details view and sorted by name, I can just start typing letters to jump to files starting with that letter. That works, except that the view jumps to file, but the file is not highlighted, so I get confused and have to still search for it in the visible files. It would be nice if the first match got highlighted, so if I type "test" it would jump to the first file starting with "test" (as it does) and also highlight that file (which it currently does not, but just about every other file manager does).
I'll report a bug on this if you don't already know about it... I didn't see anything related in the bug database.
Otherwise Dolphin rocks. Thank you for this great app :) I really liked konqueror back in KDE3, but it was just way too complex most of the time. Dolphin is much better suited to the task of file management, without losing the powerful features that made Konq good for me.
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Is it just me?
by Fred on Monday 18/Feb/2008, @03:36
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Is it just me, or do other also think plasmoids are beginning to look more and more like.....normal windows? I mean, if I look at al the stuff that get's added to it, it seem like properties for a normal window app. Resizing, DnD, Widget's, etc. Then why not give up the whole idea of plasmoids en make them little "normal" apps with some extra features like noborders, etc? What is the use-case?
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Yep, I'm one of them
by Max on Monday 18/Feb/2008, @12:56
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Yep, I'm one of them. I don't care if the Digest is a few days late. I prefer it being thorough, rather then timely.
As long as the digests come out in a regular fashing (weekly to bi-weekly) and bring interesting information that shows great amounts of PROGRESS. I'm fine. Those digests is what I and many people use to get a quick snapshot of KDE development.
I'm sure they also help in keeping interest in the project and keep new programmers involved and exited about it.
Oh and to the posting/whining question:
Most people read the digest and respond to it because its
A) faster
B) easier
to respond to than the complicated bug-report procedure. I can make a post here under 30 seconds. It takes much longer to do the same under bugs.kde (let alone the politics and complicated procedure to even get bug reports accepted and acknowledged. So not worth it (unless it's a REALLY BIG problem) ) Besides more people read the digests than the bug reports. (not to mention the dot.kde viewership :) )
dot.kde is also read by non-geeks (programers, developers, Linux nerds, etc.) So real users feel much less intimitaded to post her. As well as non-geeks usually avoid bug report lists (as they speak too much "geek", and non-geeks do not feel that they can contribute in a useful way anyway.)
So again: Thank you for the digest, and thank you to the dot.kde.
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Z order in plasma
by Mohamed Assar on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @06:02
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what about the z-order - or layers - for the plasmoids ?
something like back to front, send to back and stick on top.
also to fix the overlaying problem when more than one plasmoids cover the same area .
I think it's already in the TODO , but I just didn't notice it anywhere.
Regards,
Mohamed
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Posted by Danny Allen on Saturday 16/Feb/2008, @14:13