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Re: New KMail maintainer
by Thomas McGuire on Saturday 16/Feb/2008, @14:58

There is no big story behind this.

Ingo Klöcker, the old maintainer, doesn't have the time anymore to work much on KMail, and therefore asked me if I wanted to be the new maintainer, since I've been the person doing most of the work on the KDE4 version that time.

So there's nothing like the old maintainer conflicts back in 2002.

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Re: New KMail maintainer
by richlv on Monday 18/Feb/2008, @01:47

wonderful. thanks for stepping up.
i've tried migrating from thunderbird to kmail several times now, but every time there were some small and not-so-small nuisances that prevented me. i guess i'll try again once i start using kde4 :)

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Re: New KMail maintainer
by Bobby on Monday 18/Feb/2008, @13:15

I was forced to migrate from Evolution to Kmail. I say forced because Evolution was one of the few Gnome apps that I really loved but there was a problem with storing my password in openSuse 10.1 I think it was so I switched to Kmail. I had the hell of a time getting Kmail to set up properly which was the contrast to Evolution and it had some issues with fetching and sending mails sometimes but the worst thing about it is that it's one of the slowest e-mail clients that I ever used. I still use Kmail with the hope that it will improve a lot in KDE 4. KDE PIM would be perfect if Kmail would work as good as Evolution or Thunderbird.

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Re: New KMail maintainer
by Kerr Avon on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @21:45

I agree, to an extent.

I definitely wouldn't say I "loved" Evolution due to its many bugs but the setup of new accounts was very painless.

I consider myself an intermediate level Linux user but I could not configure Kmail (on Fedora 8) to access my POP accounts without referring to the help. Even this was out of date as some of the screens had been renamed. Dejargonizing and making the configuration of POP accounts much more user friendly will certainly help Kmail adoption.

I am not advocating a "dumbing down" of the program (which I know is anathema to many KDE devs) but simply removing UNNECESSARY complexity. Both Thunderbird and Evolution have this one aspect right, so surely Kmail can be improved to surpass them.

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Re: New KMail maintainer
by jms on Monday 18/Feb/2008, @02:48

Hi,

Can you tell if there is any plan to add the "reply to html mail" feature.
I (and others) have been waiting for years for this IMHO critical feature.
Indeed, when kmail receives an htnl formatted mail it is impossible to reply without destroying the whole formatting (a first step could be to enhance the html to text processing).
In a business environment, kmail is not a common mail client (guess what is the de facto standart...). Nearly every mail is html formatted (with colored text, bold text, itemize,...).
Using color, bold and itemize *is* useful especially when the mail is address to a group of participants that choose a different color for replying, or use bold to enhance part of a large mail.
It is rather embarrassing to reply to these mails with kmail. You end up screwing the whole thread and you get a reputation: "that stupid linux geek is not even able to answer mail correctly, why on earth does he insist on using this".
Well because, I'm used to *nix like OS, but yes I agree this problem with kmail is unfortunate. I'm pretty sure it will be addressed, at least I've seen some guy saying this a couple of years ago...

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Re: New KMail maintainer
by Thomas McGuire on Monday 18/Feb/2008, @11:07

>Can you tell if there is any plan to add the "reply to html mail" feature.
Well, I don't plan adding something like this for 4.1 myself.
Not because I am against it (I know that proper HTML support is important), but simply because there are lots of other things to do and time&developers are short. For example fixing the tons of regressions the Qt4 port introduced and working on refactoring to make the Akonadi port easier.

However, maybe someone else will code it, for example Edwin, who already introduced HTML signatures recently.

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