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Re: Porr guys
by Anon on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @05:37
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"On the other side a lot of people will get disapointed with KDE4, will run ASAP to gnome and never look back again :-P"
Based on some of the old reviews of GNOME 2.0.0 I've read from the time of its release, you could easily have predicted that everyone would have switched to KDE and stayed there. And yet, according to widespread online polls, GNOME is currently the more popular of the two DEs.
The line of reasoning misses the fact that the Linux desktop is still growing, possibly at an accelerated rate compared to previous years, and that many newcomers first tastes of GNOME and KDE will be GNOME 2.2x vs KDE 4.1 or 4.2. In fact, only a small proportion of newcomers - just for those joining up this year, let alone all of the droves that will join in years to come - will have to put up with the roughness of KDE 4.0.x or (to a hopefully far lesser degree) 4.1. Predictions of an irreversible shift based on a single short window of sub-par releases are fairly naive and not supported by historical evidence, IMO. |
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Re: Porr guys
by Diederik van der Boor on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @05:44
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> And yet, according to widespread online polls, GNOME is currently the more popular of the two DEs.
Online polls at GNOME sites I presume? :-P
Since I'm reading polls where KDE still has a larger market share in the Linux destkop.
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Re: Porr guys
by Anon on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @07:28
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"Online polls at GNOME sites I presume? :-P"
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8454912761.html
Publicised widely, including here on the Dot (skewing results towards KDE, if anything). Over 38000 respondents, checked for uniqueness of IP addresses.
"Since I'm reading polls where KDE still has a larger market share in the Linux destkop."
Links?
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Re: Porr guys
by Narishma on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @07:45
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It was also publicized on big sites like digg which are infested with Ubuntu users, so it doesn't prove much either way.
You can't really measure the "desktop share" of OSS desktops anyway so why bother.
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Re: Porr guys
by Tim on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @11:29
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I remember that poll. It basically came down to a shouting match --- "Hey everyone on #kde! There's a poll about which desktop is the BESTEST! Everyone go and vote for KDE!" --- and was hence useless.
A better way of gauging use would be to check the package download stats of a distro that installs neither desktop by default. Maybe debian?
Alternatively poll people at a desktop-neutral linux event. Even so that may have bias towards the more hacker-friendly desktop (whichever that is!)
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Re: Porr guys
by stats on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @12:14
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The only reliable poll would measure those who switched gnome<->kde and stayed switched. That way you are talking about individuals who have experienced both and made an informed decision (uninfluenced by biases in the original installation).
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Re: Porr guys
by Andreas Pietzowski on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @11:59
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> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8454912761.html
Never trust statistics where one bar with 14% is taller than another 14% bar and also never ever trust a statistic where the background labeling differs from the values in the statstic bars! ;-)
SCNR
Pietz
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Re: Porr guys
by Erik on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @05:01
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Yeah, that poll makes a good laugh. They must have been drunk when they made those graphs!
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Re: Porr guys
by Richard on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @14:49
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KDE is better, Gnome is better. Does it really matter? That is one of the thngs that nearly put me off the linux community when I was looking to make the switch from windows. Personally when someone I know wants to move to linux, I don't tell them which to use, I just give them the links to both the live cd's of opensuse gnome and kde and tell them to find which best suits them. Then I tell them that they should also try out the different distro's until they find which suits them. I get tired of the which desktop is better, which distro is better and I find it really puts people off linux
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Re: Porr guys
by Sebastian Sauer on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @05:54
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According to http://www.google.de/trends?q=kde%2Cgnome it's not that big difference. But if you like to compare, then probably try http://www.google.de/trends?q=kde%2Cgnome%2Cwindows%2Cmac :)
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Re: Poor guys
by interesting.. on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @06:43
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The Swiss seem to be the most adventurous OS nation on Earth! Why are the stereotypically staid swiss the most likely to search for mac, gnome, kde relative to windows I wonder.
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Re: Porr guys
by mike on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @08:21
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look at searches for ubuntu in place of gnome and the results look more positive. However, search results dont translate 1to1 for users.
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Re: Porr guys
by Hi on Tuesday 19/Feb/2008, @19:57
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What is it with this KDE vs. Gnome?
Coke vs. Pepsi
Democrats vs. Republican
American cars vs. Imports
etc.
Does it always have to be A) or B) in the United States? Ever heard of "both" or having choice? Why does it always have to be one, or the other?
Is that a cultural thing we Europeans don't understand?
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