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Re: Light-weight office suite?
by Bobby on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @01:59
I am a die-hard KDE lover but there are two GTK applications that I will never let go until the KDE equivalents are at least as good and they are Firefox and OpenOffice. Konqueror as a standalone browser just can't match Firefox and Koffice still have a lot of catching up to do when compared to openOffice. I am only a user with very little knowledge of coding but I think that the end users are the real testers and the one who see the differences :)
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Re: Light-weight office suite?
by Anon on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @02:36
Nit-pick : Firefox and OO.o can't really be termed "GTK" applications: they use their own widgets throughout the entirety of their huge codebases, and on Linux, the "last mile" is handled by GTK. The dependence on GTK is so slight that, in the case of Firefox, a handful of KDE devs managed to remove all dependence on GTK from the 1.5M loc codebase and replace it with Qt in just *a few days*.

It always irks me when GNOME fanatics try to hold these two apps up as great examples of GTK apps - the two owe practically none of their success to their use of GTK and, indeed, don't use GTK at all on any platforms but *nix.
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  • Re: Light-weight office suite?
    by T. J. Brumfield on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @05:59
    On Linux, Firefox only builds with GTK widgets these days. The QT branch has been completely deserted.

    Someone could develop a QT4 branch, and I'd love to see it.
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    • Re: Light-weight office suite?
      by Max on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @09:38
      That sux, that it's abandoned. This would be great to work under Qt 4.4 and KDE.
      NOKIA - this might be useful for your mobile phones *hint, hint*

      When are we getting it? Will it be in the next newsletter?

      Qt-Firefox, I can see it now. =)
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  • Re: Light-weight office suite?
    by Mike on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @09:36
    >The dependence on GTK is so slight that, in the case of Firefox, a handful of KDE devs managed to remove all dependence on GTK from the 1.5M loc codebase and replace it with Qt in just *a few days*.


    Really? That would be SO COOL!!! Where are the packages?

    I would love to use KDE -Firefox. (or Fire-saur = Firefox + Konqii)

    Is it any faster than the current version? Does it use less memory? What are the benefits?


    Could we just do the same with OpenOffice?
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    • Re: Light-weight office suite?
      by Kevin Krammer on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @10:38
      > Really? That would be SO COOL!!! Where are the packages?

      This work has been rejected by Mozilla, therefore it is no longer being worked on.

      There is no point in working on something that will not be accepted by the application maintainers unless you intend to fork and forking a browser when you already have one isn't wise either.
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      • Re: Light-weight office suite?
        by T. J. Brumfield on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @22:04
        Really?

        Firefox used to have a QT branch back in the Firefox 1.5 days and they objected to the branch before. Firefox has tons of config options and branches, and I mean tons.

        If someone wrote the code, then post it.
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      • Re: Light-weight office suite?
        by Grósz Dániel on Saturday 23/Feb/2008, @04:36
        Another option is to develop the Qt version parallelly with the official branch and merge the changes of every new version. Of course this would need extra maintainence work.
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    • Re: Light-weight office suite?
      by Erik on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @16:27
      > Could we just do the same with OpenOffice?

      This seems to be done already. I am running OpenOffice with Qt widgets right now. Gentoo package app-office/openoffice-2.3.1-r1 with USE-flag kde enabled.
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Re: Light-weight office suite?
by Grósz Dániel on Saturday 23/Feb/2008, @04:33
Does OOo use GTK at you under KDE? OOo as of 2.0 can use Qt (default under KDE), GTK (default under Gnome) and its own widget set (default under other DEs).
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