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Re: Multiplatform Support
by Manabu on Wednesday 20/Feb/2008, @18:43
I'm far from needing all the features, but I can't use your program if one or two of the 80 ~ 90% so caled "never used features" are not there, and every one has an *diferent* set of unusual features that they need and can't live w/o. You must be realy naive to expect pleasing 90% of the users implementing the 10~20% most used features. I would not expect even 10% of loyal users.

Another day I needed to view and edit an spreadsheet with some parametrical plots, but not even OpenOffice implemented that feature, let alone Koffice. If I worked with that on daily basis, I would never look another time to these programs, but in my case was only an anoyance that made me run to excel for this file, and an negative point for openoffice and koffice.

>That said, KOffice2 is sufficiently extensible that if you need a feature that is not available in the base package, then it can be added through a plugin.

Given that I'm an programmer and have enought time and knowledge to implement that feature. Or that I'm rich and can pay some hours of an professional programmer's time for every feature that I want and is not there. How much I would have to pay to have that parametrical plot capability in koffice, for example? I have no idea, but it should not be cheap.

Also, plugins should be reserved for custom features (macro-like things), or some special things that would add too much bloat for only that feature (ie: video-playing).
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Re: Multiplatform Support
by Sebastian Sauer on Wednesday 20/Feb/2008, @21:38
Probably to look at the other way around makes it more clear; without those 20% of the basic functionality that needs to work 100%, you will have (at least) 80% of your users lost ;) Above I already did mention, loading+editing+saving a document for KWord. As example for KSpread it's tetra-important to always calculate 100% correct (not like MSCalc, heh) and to fullfit that need, a lot of work was done on producing unittests for every single formula (and there are a lot of them). Also a lot of time was spend to improve the performance with huge documents since that was a big issue in KSpread 1.6 afaik. That doesn't mean, that support for parametrical plots may never done. It just means, that it had a lower priority then working e.g. on the formula-front.
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  • Re: Multiplatform Support
    by Sebastian Sauer on Wednesday 20/Feb/2008, @21:45
    s/MSCalc/MSExcel/ ... so, that wasn't meaned to be ambiguous, but is just an example that I still have problems to deal with all the names MS invented like Excel, Office Open XML, shared source, Standard, etc.
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  • Re: Multiplatform Support
    by Manabu on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @07:24
    Of course. I was just alarmed with Berger saying that the goal of the project is only have the 20% basic working and nothing more. It is ok as an short-term goal, but not long-term, especialy for an office suite.

    It is realy amazing the amount of progress that KOffice team has done with so little work force, that is an small fraction of that used by MSOffice or OpenOffice. We can only wonder what could be done with an similar work force. So don't have so modest long-term goals!
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Re: Multiplatform Support
by BCook2 on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @15:54
Video Playing Should No Longer Add Much Bloat In KDE4, Thanks To Phonon.
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