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Re: Looks great, but PLEASE SAVE DESKTOP REAL ESTATE.
by Fri13 on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @04:51

"I am typing this from a Sony laptop with a 10.4" screen, using just 1024x768. This taskbar + Raptor would use 1/3 of my total screen. (whole bottom 1/3 of my useful screen gone *grr*) Am I really the only one who is bothered by this?"

Hey, its a 'menu', not a toolbar. It comes up only when you want to start application and that time you dont need to control your applications on screen. It's like with any menu, they always hides something but they are just a button and those are not on your way when you use your other applications ;-)

Currently menu-plasmoid is too big, even for 1280x800 screen but it's fixed on SVN version (4.0.2) so you get it smaller (atleast two rows for apps).
But it will get better when KDE 4.1 hits the road ;-)

I like that Rapotor menu, it's good to get menu what use space if it gives great usability. KickOff just 'sucks', it's great when user just use 'favorites' part but when user goes to "applications" or other tabs, old kmenu comes much faster and easier to use (and most new PC users even only need two click to open applications, first to open menu, then go menutree, no matter how deep, and second click to start application)
That's why i like old kmenu with 10-15 favorite-list on top of it so i get KickOff benefit but still have a faster applications menu. Only thing what i miss is search bar what makes Kickoff great because it is easy to find apps what you dont know. But if i relly wanna start applications fast, i forget all menus and i use alt+F2 what has drop-list and autocomplete so i can start all apps/address/etc very fast.

But i dont blame those who likes kickoff, kmenu or any other menu, most important thing is that there will come to be choises for everyone so we are not forced to use one menu as on MacOSX or Vista (yak).
That's why KDE is so great, it's all about choises!

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Re: Looks great, but PLEASE SAVE DESKTOP REAL ESTA
by NabLa on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @05:19

I actually like GNOME's arrangement for panels, and that's how my KDE3 desktop is configured: on the top a panel with the menu, quicklaunch, a few applets and a systray. At the bottom, on a single line, the taskbar on another panel. And both panels are quite thin, as I run 1280x800. Can't wait for KDE4.0.2 so I can resize the panel. Actually, I can't wait for Kubuntu to fix KDE4 which has been broken and unable to boot since an update 3 days ago lol

Questions:
* Is it possible to have more than one panel in KDE4?
* Is there any quicklaunch plasmoid going on?
* Is there any panel plasmoid that has the effect of showing the dashboard, or perhaps any way to put a button there that does CRTL+F12?

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Re: Looks great, but PLEASE SAVE DESKTOP REAL ESTA
by Anon on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @05:22

"* Is it possible to have more than one panel in KDE4?"

It was possible in 4.0.0, IIRC - it's just that no GUI config had been written for it.

"* Is there any quicklaunch plasmoid going on?"

What is "quicklaunch", precisely?

"* Is there any panel plasmoid that has the effect of showing the dashboard, or perhaps any way to put a button there that does CRTL+F12?"

The Show Desktop Plasmoid does something similar, but may not be 100% the same.

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Re: Looks great, but PLEASE SAVE DESKTOP REAL ESTA
by Terracotta on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @12:30

*What is "quicklaunch" precisely*
Perhaps a "panel" in the panel with icons to launch a program.

I have been thinking about such a thing to incorporate it with a "favorites" kind of thingie (and some other stuff as well), but the idea is still growing, gonna dig into plasma api's and hopefully the raptor guys make their favorites document accessible by other applets, would be nice.

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Re: Looks great, but PLEASE SAVE DESKTOP REAL ESTA
by Luca Beltrame on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @08:02

You can just put icons in the panel by dragging them from Kickoff IIRC. You can't move them, though (not yet at least).

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Re: Looks great, but PLEASE SAVE DESKTOP REAL ESTA
by Luca Beltrame on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @08:03

Correcting myself: by right-clicking and selecting "Add to Panel". Unsure if it's a distro-specific tweak (I use Kubuntu) or not.

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Re: Looks great, but PLEASE SAVE DESKTOP REAL ESTA
by Riddle on Wednesday 27/Feb/2008, @16:56

If you're talking about KDE3, no: it's in stock KDE3 (I use Gentoo, so no distribution specific tweaks), but if you're talking about KDE4, then it's Kubuntu specific (I never saw it and I've seen Kubuntu KDE4 before).

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