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Re: let's hope
by kk on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @17:21

I'm sorry, but please leave me out of your "future". I'm a happy KMail user since years and I really can live without fancy-shmancy HTML emails. I rather hope that they stabilize the IMAP support. I still have to remove KMail's local indexes occasionally because it just screwed up the order or got a hickup if a new mail comes in at the same time I delete a large mail.

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Re: let's hope
by Ian Monroe on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @18:44

I believe one of the major reasons behind the creation of Akonadi was the IMAP situation in KMail.

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Re: let's hope
by Cypher on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @21:43

*You* can live without it... but do remember that KDE-PIM Enterprise means that it could be used for business. And it's sad to say, but it's nowhere near a professional soft. I find it too messy (what is that window showing the parts of the e-mail ? KMail is the only one doing that, I find it useless, it should be optional instead of default).

As long as geeks make soft for geeks, there will be usability issues.

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Re: let's hope
by Paul Eggleton on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @21:56

Funny, I frequently encounter usability issues in Microsoft Outlook 2007, and yet I'm sure it is used by millions of businesses around the world.

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Re: let's hope
by Cypher on Thursday 21/Feb/2008, @22:25

I didn't mean that the other products around were perfect either ;) There are usability issues in every product. Let's then try to make Kontact (and its sub-components) better than the others, which is not the case for the moment.

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Re: let's hope
by NabLa on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @00:55

I second that. While I personally loathe HTML emails, most people want to be able to at least do some HTML formatting.

And I agree with a previous post. That pane with all the different components on the email... what's that all about? Lots of wasted space IMO, and very messy.

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Re: let's hope
by Anon on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @01:00

"Lots of wasted space IMO, and very messy."

Shrink it down to zero size.

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Re: let's hope
by Segedunum on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @08:05

Why? Why not come up with something better for displaying attachments?

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Re: let's hope
by mahoutsukai on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @13:31

Update to KDE 3.5.9 instead of complaining.

From http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Features_3.5.9:
Aggregated attachment view in the mail header area of the reader window

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Re: let's hope
by André on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @02:29

I find it to be a key feature, actually. I simply love this view of my messages. It allows me to quickly get out attachments, for instance. It also allows me to to see a message in plain text view by default, but switch to HTML view in a snap. That other programs don't have it is no argument. That is called innovation.

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Re: let's hope
by Stefan Majewsky on Saturday 23/Feb/2008, @12:12

+1

As a programmer, I'm a friend of detailed analyses in general, and of this message components view in particular.

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Re: let's hope
by nzivkovic on Friday 22/Feb/2008, @12:53

Last time I checked, Kmail can read HTML quite nicely.
There's a little button at the top of the message that asks you to click on it if you wish to view the html message.

If you don't like the window showing the tree of files in the email, then you can turn it off by dragging the resize bar of that window to the very bottom of the app.

You shouldn't judge an application based on 4 minutes of use.
Kmail is *significantly* more configurable and user-friendly than MS Outlook and Apple Mail.

And if you like those apps instead of Kmail, then go use Windows or Mac.

However, if you are willing to learn a new (and IMHO better) way of doing things, then stick around and let the good times roll.

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Re: let's hope
by Renaud on Tuesday 26/Feb/2008, @12:33

> what is that window showing the parts of the e-mail ?
> KMail is the only one doing that, I find it useless, it should be optional instead of default

Are you kidding?
That is one of the greatest features i've seen in a MUA and I use it frequently. Don't you get any multi-part message? It gets really great when you have a mail with attached files embeded in another mail.

And if you don't like, juste disable it in the config.

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Re: let's hope
by Anon on Tuesday 26/Feb/2008, @12:49

"And if you don't like, juste disable it in the config.And if you don't like, juste disable it in the config."

Appearance -> Layout -> Message Structure Viewer, BTW, for anyone who is curious.

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