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Features: Yes - Quality: No
by Anon on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @07:45

Kommander has some nice new features in 3.5.9, but there are some caveats...

- It doesnt compile anymore with hidden visibility (gives weird compile errors)
- I tried the khtml plugin, it crashes instantly when running the demo browser

So, should i still report this on the bugtracker? I already had the experience that some of my bugreports got closed because KDE is moving forward with 4.x and old versions get no love anymore...

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Re: Features: Yes - Quality: No
by Eric Laffoon on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @17:51

Interesting the glib quantum conclusions...

- It doesnt compile anymore with hidden visibility (gives weird compile errors)

I remember seeing somthing on bugs with other KDE apps with this. I think this is an issue with KDE's admin directory, but I have to think if it compiled that's a good thing.

- I tried the khtml plugin, it crashes instantly when running the demo browser

That's strange, but the plugins are not part of the release per se. Those involving KParts are experimental. Given the number of people testing this and this being the fist problem of this nature I've heard odds are 50/50 at best that it's a bug as opposed to a system problem.

> So, should i still report this on the bugtracker? I already had the experience that some of my bugreports got closed because KDE is moving forward with 4.x and old versions get no love anymore...

And you are complaining about us? Answer me this... If we are not planning on releasing any further versions how do you propose we get the fix out? Would you prefer minor or experimental issues be pursued with deprecated software or that effort go to making these things work better in the next version?

If there is something of substance broken we missed we could make a new release. (I have been spending as much as 12 hours a day building an application with Kommander and have found almost nothing wrong with it. If I tested no more than you did to reach your conclusions then we would all have problems.)

One more thing... I have answered every user question on my mailing list in the last few weeks. I'm trying to pay for sponsored development with one of the best programmers in KDE and spending my money and losing sleep to bring this to the community. Your opening salvo of BS definitely moves you the wrong direction on my priority list. Grab a clue anonymous coward!

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Re: Features: Yes - Quality: No
by Jan on Friday 07/Mar/2008, @01:42

> I remember seeing somthing on bugs with other KDE apps with this. I think this is an issue with KDE's admin directory, but I have to think if it compiled that's a good thing.

Thanks, I will check this out

> And you are complaining about us? Answer me this... If we are not planning on releasing any further versions how do you propose we get the fix out? Would you prefer minor or experimental issues be pursued with deprecated software or that effort go to making these things work better in the next version?

I am not complaining. It was a simple question based on experiences. Its that easy.

> If there is something of substance broken we missed we could make a new release. (I have been spending as much as 12 hours a day building an application with Kommander and have found almost nothing wrong with it. If I tested no more than you did to reach your conclusions then we would all have problems.)

I like Kommander very much, and my mentioned crash was the first bug i experienced with it.

> One more thing... I have answered every user question on my mailing list in the last few weeks. I'm trying to pay for sponsored development with one of the best programmers in KDE and spending my money and losing sleep to bring this to the community. Your opening salvo of BS definitely moves you the wrong direction on my priority list. Grab a clue anonymous coward!

Dont expect that users know the whole story around Kommander or read MLs or a lot of text (like all the comments here) before using the application or getting in touch with you (just to know _what_ or _how_ they should write to you and what not). In my opinion you are clearly over-reacting here. But thats not a big issue for me, as i think that everything can be worked out.

And by the way, i am using a script in Opera to post here, as i dont want to expose my mail-adress everywhere... Its just a fast and convenient way for me to post on sites like this one...

Now that i know about this, i will post my bug to the KDE bugtracker once i have built packages with full debug info and i hope that this situation is solved now.

Jan

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