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Re: panel resize?
by Mark on Wednesday 05/Mar/2008, @12:49
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That sounds like I soon give KDE4 another try.
But what about other configuration options:
- Is it or when will it be possible to configure the size of icons and fonts in the taskbar, the menu and on the desktop again?
- is possible to disable that ugly frame which surrounds all icons and wigdets as soon as you approach them?
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Re: panel resize?
by ramses on Wednesday 05/Mar/2008, @14:16
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do not ask too much. It's still not possible to change the size of the font for the clock for exemple and so the clock is bigger than the panel...
Another small problem I saw is that when the panel is very small (tiny in my case) some of the widget inside are too big and appear at the top of the screen (the clock and the application launcher do have this behavior!)
But these are details! The work done between 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 is great really. And now I can think to use kde4 as my default desktop.
I just hope that the plasmoid will improve for the 4.0.3 and that the ATI driver could let me use all the effetc and the OpenGL stuff.
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Re: panel resize?
by Sebastian Kuegler on Wednesday 05/Mar/2008, @16:05
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> do not ask too much. It's still not possible to change the size of the font for the clock for exemple and so the clock is bigger than the panel...
The digiclock is supposed to do that itself. It does respect the "smallest readable font" setting from systemsettings, if you set this smaller, the clock might be able to fit in nicer.
Which settings expose those problems, by the way? Interesting would be the panel size, the font used and the smallest readable font, and of course a screenshot.
> I just hope that the plasmoid will improve for the 4.0.3 and that the ATI driver could let me use all the effetc and the OpenGL stuff.
I'm using the ATI fglrx driver on my notebook, X1300 and it actually works quite well, kwin composite runs smoothly so that it doesn't get in the way. YMMV, but at least it *is* possible to have kwin compositing with fglrx.
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Re: panel resize?
by whatever noticed on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @05:25
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Where can we find that 'smallest readable font' in the systemsettings"
I couldn't find it, and over here, the clock also doesn't scale with the panel size (the font size stays the same, causing the panel to only show the upper part of the digits). Also, the icons for k-menu, show desktop, konqueror and filemanager to the left of the panel don't scale. They now show the upper 3/4 of the icon on the panel.
What i also noticed is that my Dutch desktop contains a lot of English text, which is odd considering that the statistic page of the translations gives the Dutch team a gold medal for their 100% translation of kde 4.0
Lat but not least: the icons on my desktop are doubled (which is an improvement, as they were tripled on my 4.01 desktop)..
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Re: panel resize?
by Sebastian Kuegler on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @10:49
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Look for the "Small" setting in System Settings | Appearance | Fonts.
Please supply more information of your things in Plasma, as I wrote in the other post, the following is interesting:
- Font sizes (Taskbar, Small)
- Panel Size
- Screenshots
Easiest to address and track it is a bugreport, the Dot is a very poor tool for that kind of thing.
Thanks.
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Re: panel resize?
by Dan Linder on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @09:44
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I'm not the original poster, but I can comment on this as well. If a bug report has been opened on this, give me the ID and I'll add these there -- I couldn't find one that applied to the KDE4 issue.
Background:
Kubuntu 8.04 with the latest (May-6) updates applied. (kde4-4.0.3 I believe)
When I right-click on the panel (kicker?) and choose the size to be "Tiny" there are two quickly noticeable effects (aside from the desired thin panel):
1: The default "Digital Clock" on the right side is too big and only the upper half of the time is displayed. A work-around is to enable the "Show date" on the clock which just shrinks the time font a bit and moves it higher. (But you can't actually see the date so it's not a fix.)
2: When I click on the "K" menu, it isn't right above the panel, rather it is shoved to the top of the screen.
I'll attach a screen shot with annotations showing these errors.
Dan
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Re: panel resize?
by Rinse on Friday 07/Mar/2008, @04:59
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>>What i also noticed is that my Dutch desktop contains a lot of English text,
Checked this, and i noticed that a lot of languages have been commented out in the kde4 .desktop files that opensuse ships.
Dunno if this is a suse issue or a kde issue.
I'll check this out...
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Re: panel resize?
by ramses on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @07:29
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the problem is not only with the font but with the plasmoid itself or could you explain me why if I choose to have the date in addition to the hour, the date appeared at the bottom of the screen (if the panel is at the bottom) and why the lower part of the K menu is at the top of the screen too. It's nothing due to the font in both case.
I solved the problems. I put the panel at the bottom so now it's a little bit bigger than at the bottom (probably because of the icone for the K menu) and I remove the clock.
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Re: panel resize?
by Moltonel on Wednesday 05/Mar/2008, @14:18
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> is possible to disable that ugly frame which surrounds
> all icons and wigdets as soon as you approach them?
Right-click on the desktop -> select "lock widgets". Here you go, no more frames.
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Re: panel resize?
by Sebastian Kuegler on Wednesday 05/Mar/2008, @15:58
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> - Is it or when will it be possible to configure the size of icons and fonts in the taskbar, the menu and on the desktop again?
You can change the font used in the taskbar in systemsettings | Appearance | Fonts | Taskbar
> - is possible to disable that ugly frame which surrounds all icons and wigdets as soon as you approach them?
Just lock the desktop via the RMB menu, they are only there when the desktop is unlocked.
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Re: panel resize?
by tom on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @02:01
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systemsettings | Appearance | Fonts | Taskbar
is this logical?
wouldn't you search for "taskbar" first, then for the font setting of the taskbar?
also nice to have would be: you could right-click on the taskbar and choose to open the relevant systemsettings dialog.
Just an idea.
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Re: panel resize?
by Sebastian Kuegler on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @11:36
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Actually, I would look for font settings exactly where I put it.
There has been a design decision sometime, somewhere that we should try to not provide twenty different ways of setting something up because that leads to clutter in the UI and is actually harder to find in the end.
To me, the System Settings way we chose for is pretty clear and also scales well.
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Re: panel resize?
by whatever noticed on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @05:33
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Hmm, doesn't work overhere.
Changed the font for the task bar to '4' (it was 11), logged out and in to get it activated, and while the buttons in the taskbar are now unreadable small, the clock digits are still larger than the panel
I also noticed something new: the lower part of the panel apeares to be drawn on the top of the screen. I noticed some glitches over there, and when i clicked the glitch in the top richt corner, k-menu opened..
Pretty odd :o)
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Re: panel resize?
by Sebastian Kuegler on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @10:51
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The date field respects the Small setting, the clock itself will take the rest of the space. Can you please be more specific, i.e. supplying the following information in a bugreport:
- Taskbar, Small font settings (face, size)
- Panel size
- screenshot showing the problem
Thanks.
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Re: panel resize?
by simon on Thursday 06/Mar/2008, @13:10
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I think that both http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157537 and http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158762 seem to be this issue. The latter seems to suggest it's fixed in trunk.
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