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  KDE Commit-Digest for 2nd March 2008
Developer Posted by Danny Allen on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @05:18
from the I-can't-believe-it's-March dept.
In this week's KDE Commit-Digest: Work on WebKit integration, the ability to access Plasma data engines in Plasmoids rendered through WebKit, and a HDDtemp daemon data engine are added to Plasma, plus work on Plasmoid packaging and KRunner. Items can now be dragged from the Kickoff menu to the desktop or the panel. More work on syncing Akregator with online reader services. A GUI for declinations in Parley. Support for DGML tags in Marble. Genuine progress in the KTankBattle game. General improvements and the removal of the Helix engine in Amarok 2. A visual redesign of the KGet "Web Interface", with added translation capabilities. Continued work on KPresenter slide transitions, and KCron. Work on importing and exporting shortcut configurations in KControl. The "three stars per character" password mode returns to KDE 4 (from the KDE 3 series). Various speed optimisations across KDE applications. Ligature moves to "unmaintained" status. KDE 4.0.2 is tagged for release. Read the rest of the Digest here.


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Over 40 comments listed. Printing out index only.
Thanks Danny
by Emil Sedgh on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @05:42
This is a special thanks, to you, for spending time for one hundred digests.
Whole community appreciates this.
Thanks DannyAllen, you rock.

( /me is so happy that dannya's exams went fine )
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webkit in konqueror!
by Lee on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @07:24
Seems to me that one of the most important parts was unmentioned in the summary:

"Port the WebKit part to the current Qt 4.4 snapshot. Now I am able to surf in Konqueror with QtWebKit!

It is not really usable at the moment because there are still some glitches / missing features."
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Return of kiosktool?
by xian on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @09:34
Its great to see the return of kiosk tool. Hopefully it will get the love that it deserves.
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usability and stability
by h.steen on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @10:40
In the last years a few companies and municipal authorities migrated to OSS.
In one of those, I am responsible for the decision to prefer KDE to other
desktops. We needed a stable, customizable, feature-rich but functional
environment, and KDE3 seemed (and really was - in my opinion) the right choice.

After quite a long while of observing the KDE4 development with anxious hope,
fear and - sorry - disappointment, it's pretty clear that this KDE4 will never fit
our needs. Ok, no one to blame for. But just to mention, after making dolphin
the default file-manager, it was rather 'demagogic' to claim that konqueror will
still be available, as although konqueror is still there, it seems it uses now
the file-manager-part of dolphin. No "View Mode/Tree View" anymore! A not so unimportant
feature at all, for those to have handle large amounts of documents.
[ http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/02/konqueror-not-vanishing-news-at-11.html ]

The default start-menu, space-wasting borders, icon-handling on the desktop,
system-settings replaced kcontrol - thats all about usability, but let alone
plasma-stability and performance ...
So is there any chance to get a KDE4 (maybe a fork) without those plasma?
With a Konqueror with fully functionality?
Because - the hope dies at last - and, although I'm not a programmer,
i think the other underlying changes sounded very promising. It would be
too bad that those were overlayed by wrong decisions related to the "front end".
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Keyboard access to the start menu?
by Oscar on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @10:42
Is there a way to open the start menu from the keyboard? The "search" there is just what I need to start my apps but it's just so damn annoying to let go of the keyboard, grab the mouse to click on the icon just to grab the keyboard again to start typing the name of the app I want to start.

Can it be done? I looked at configuring shortcuts but couldn't find out how.
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Status of Plasma and Widget on Canvas
by phD student that should stop reading the dot on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @15:19
Hi,
thanks for the digest, it is very interesting.

I have one question for plasma devs.
What is the current status of the transition from Plasma Widget to WoC and other QT 4.4 new stuff ?
Do you need testing ?

Thanks in advance

(I am affraid I cannot help coding due to lack of time and the need to learn a lot of things before being usefull, still I can compile (not complicated to type make) )
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466 people are for KDE - Please vote
by Max on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @17:07
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/478/

Let's see if we can get that number go up by at least 100 by the next digest.
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yawn
by anon on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @17:59
yawn, commit digest for the 2nd march, published after the latest updates. really getting slack and slow here. Perhaps .dot could hire a monkey, I am sure they could get it out to us faster than Danny.
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Just out of curiosity
by yman on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @22:07
What good is it to have 3 stars appear in password fields, rather than 1?
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Congratulations Danny!
by fred on Sunday 09/Mar/2008, @23:33
Congratulations Danny for the 100th Digest! Thanks for all your work for the community :-)

And also thanks to Derek Kite who started and produced our old CVS Digest!

Hats off to you guys :-)
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Ligature?
by anon on Monday 10/Mar/2008, @00:29
Has nobody maintained Ligature anymore? It is pretty sad :( We had a long debate Okular vs Ligature, and now one of them is no longer maintained...
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Kicker vs. plasma how-to
by Sebastian on Monday 10/Mar/2008, @02:33
Many users still have problems using plasma in multiple ways, i.e. featurewise (layout, number and quality of plasmoids...) and stabilitywise (just take the visual artefacts appearing since 4.0.2). I found the idea interesting to take a load from the shoulders of our plasma developers who will probably not be able to provide a satisfying solution before 4.1 while receiving even more bashing from us users. The solution was discussed in one of the last dot discussions. It is to enable KDE3 kicker to use in connection with KDE4.

There is a How-To available:
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/HOW-TO:+Kicker+on+KDE4?content=76539

This How-To shows users how to enable Kicker for regular use in KDE4 instead of the default plasma panel. Not to understand it wrong: Users still use KDE4 - Kwin, Plasma and the session manager. It is just the panel that will be replaced.

I hope, the How-To will help users who are not satisfied with KDE4 and who have been disappointed with KDE's very misleading version numbering (namely: who expected more of a x.0.0 release) and it will hope KDE developers since they can calm down users by refering them to using kicker until 4.1.

For me (openSuse 10.3) it works excellent together. Praise the design concept of KDE2/3!

Best regards
Sebastian
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KDE Brainstorm
by Ron on Monday 10/Mar/2008, @06:37
After reading most of the replies briefly, I think that a brainstorm for KDE as exists for Ubuntu is a great idea to keep devs and users in touch with each other for ideas and preferences.

It's a very clear and plain way to convey ideas and votes, to me at least.

I think that many users complaints about 4.0.x releases could have been better addressed that way, in the sense that users could have better expressed their desires and do so more conveniently. Brainstorming is easier than submitting bugs, after all :)
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Observation on Amarok and QuickTime Player
by Marc Driftmeyer on Monday 10/Mar/2008, @11:38
Is it just me or does the top of Amarok look like the footer of QuickTime Player? Move the volume slider to the left and make the height to width ratio lower and it looks like they just moved it up to the header from the footer that is in QuickTime.

Not that I'm complaining because it looks better than the 1.4 UI but definitely a nod to Apple's team.
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For the naysayers who say no improvements were mad
by Max on Monday 10/Mar/2008, @15:28
Here's something for the naysayers who say no improvements were made to KDE in the last few months.

Look at this and drool:
http://polishlinux.org/kde/kde-41-visual-changelog-rev-783000/
btw.: this was on digg.com. Yes, we made dig!!! :D :D :D

Now please go and vote for Kubuntu (link is above in another thread..)


____
P.s.: Did anybody notice that the coolest screenshots lately come from Poland?
Wonder why this is..

Can't wait to see tons of really cool HOW-TO's and Effects videos when KDE 4.1 Comes out. I'm expecting a Keynote presentation that puts "Jobs-notes"/Mac-notes to shame.. :)
*crosses fingers*
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Not satisfied with KDE and/or the commit-digest
by Mats L. on Monday 10/Mar/2008, @15:52
Well fix what you think are wrong yourself!

Seriously there is nothing that stops you. Go ahead and do something by yourself. Thats the beauty of open source, you can actually do whatever you want to improve the situation that you are not satisfied with.

There is actually only one thing that gets you nowhere and that is expect that other people should do whatever you think is important and by the time you want it to be done. Sometimes there are people that might do what you want but consider that as a bonus.
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