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Re: just two features !
by sebas on Monday 17/Mar/2008, @06:07

Cool, thanks for having a look at the *current* version, not the ancient Plasma from 2 months ago :-)

Some points you raise:

- The desktop icons need the black background unless someone implements a nicer way to get enough contrast for the text
- Moving applets inside panels is under way
- The applet handle is being worked on and polished, that'll be in 4.1 most likely.

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Re: just two features !
by Michael on Monday 17/Mar/2008, @11:57

- The desktop icons need the black background unless someone implements a nicer way to get enough contrast for the text

Valid point. But why isnt it possible to have one large black box and put all icons inside? Would look much better.

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Re: just two features !
by Anon on Monday 17/Mar/2008, @12:26

One candidate plan for dealing with the whole "have ~/Desktop represented on your desktop somehow" is precisely this - an area of the desktop cordoned off especially for having these kind of icons there. So you might be in luck :)

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Re: just two features !
by Martin Fitzpatrick on Tuesday 18/Mar/2008, @12:49

A nice idea would be able to put "folders" on the desktop in this way. If we're moving away from using the Desktop as a whole to show files, it might be counterintuitive to continue to encourage file storage in ~/Desktop?

What might be nice would be the ability to show a folder (e.g. ~/Home, ~/Documents, ~/Downloads, ~/*recent files*, ~/some-other-dynamic-search-folder) on the desktop. Creating these areas could even be the default action when folders are dragged onto the desktop. When people use the desktop to store working-files, normally this means they're either just downloaded from the net or are being edited recently...

That way we get away from the desktop as file-dump while also allowing for the convenience of having files available on the desktop (which at 1 click away is always going to be closer than browsing through folders).

Just a thought :)

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Re: just two features !
by Michael on Wednesday 19/Mar/2008, @01:38

This is an absolutely great idea. I would love to see that feature.

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Re: just two features !
by Anon on Wednesday 19/Mar/2008, @09:24

But why are we moving away from the well-established "Desktop" concept? I would like to vote for having a desktop that works as I expect a desktop to work like on any other OS

Surely it's a matter of habit, but I really dislike the way the desktop is handled by KDE4 currently, and I guess I'm not the only one.

Why was it decided that the "old" desktop paradigm is deprecated? Just curious.

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Re: just two features !
by jospoortvliet on Wednesday 19/Mar/2008, @11:28

you can look on for example Aaron's blog for answers to that question, but a hint: the desktop with icons was developed for 180K floppydrives with just a few files. We now use filemanagers to manage thousands of files. Surely the desktop can be used better, as it's original use (showing all files and/or applications you have) isn't there anymore?

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Re: just two features !
by Martin Fitzpatrick on Wednesday 19/Mar/2008, @11:48

What I was getting at was intended to maintain the useful functionality of the Desktop: that is quick and easy access to useful/relevant files.

I've not used the current KDE4 desktop yet so I can't really comment but from what I understand it handles individual files as plasma applets?

What I would like to see is plasmas for known groups of files "Recent Downloads" "Recently Opened"

Ideally I would like a Task-Orientated desktop where it was possible to group a bunch of files, bookmarks, etc. in a single package so when I want to do some of "X" I just open the "X" package and bam. Everything is back where I left it... a lot of apps in KDE provide similar functions now in Sessions but a wholly coordinated/integrated system would be neat.

You could then ship with some default "Tasks" to start people off.

But anyway, I've wandered a mile off topic. Short answer: I agree.

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Re: just two features !
by sebas on Wednesday 19/Mar/2008, @02:22

Something like that is already underway. You can find it in playground.

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