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by Mark Hannessen on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @11:44

Some usability nitpicks about the kickoff menu..

Something which striked me as odd about the kickoff menu is the "leave" menu. When you press something like "shutdown" or "restart" it pops up a menu which basicly asks you the same thing. thereby invalidating the choice you made before.

Another thing that might be nice would be to make the menu a little bit bigger by default so that you wouldn't need a scrollbar by default in the application part of the menu. ( scrollbars by default is really really bad. )

I realize that by the time kde 4.1 comes out i can resize it myself. so i suppose it isn't that much of a problem. but it would probably be nice to such things as defaults.

Another thing which boggled in my mind is that i find it really hard to see the difference between active and inactive windows. I found out that i always relied on the inactive window having a darker window then the active one. but with the new style it is basicly all white. I never really noticed how much i relied on it until now that it is gone. Any chance we could get just a little grey or something back for the inactive windows?

Right now i use a composite effect that basicly darkens the whole window. this works very nice as well, but unfortunately my laptop still has a kinda love/hate relationship with composite, so it would probably still be a nice thing to have.

Other then that i have been enjoying kde 4 quite a lot up to now and believe that kde will continue to be as stunning and impressive as ever.

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Re: Amarok
by anon on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @11:53

"When you press something like "shutdown" or "restart" it pops up a menu which basicly asks you the same thing. thereby invalidating the choice you made before."

As much as I dislike kickoff, I have to defend it here: Other start menu alternative also have this pretty annoying behaviour :(. Problem seems to be somewhere else.

I totally agree concerning the window stuff: Current Oxygen-theme seems to ignore any setting distinguishing active and inactive windows...

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Re: Amarok
by Robert Clark on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @13:52

"I totally agree concerning the window stuff: Current Oxygen-theme seems to ignore any setting distinguishing active and inactive windows..."

I ran into this a while back and went searching for some answers. I ended up at:

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152030

which basically says "this is the way we intended it to work, and no, you can't change it". The prevailing opinion seems to be "install a different theme".

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Re: Amarok
by WPosche on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @15:33

Well, in opensuse KDE3 kickoff only shows a confirm dialog when you already choose the option in the kickoff menu. Someone from the opensuse team is working on kickoff in order to add all the features it already had in KDE3 so maybe it's on his to-do list.

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Re: Amarok
by Grósz Dániel on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @15:26

"Other start menu alternative also have this pretty annoying behaviour"

The traditional start menu? It has only one menu entry for terminating the session, as in KDE 3 so it is not a problem that a window pops up asking whether you want to log out or shut down etc. The problem with Kickoff is that it has different menu entries for logout, shutdown etc., but it still asks one more time which do you want.

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Re: Amarok
by anon on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @15:53

I'm using openSUSE snapshots, and until recently the traditional start menu had exactly the same bannoying ehaviour as the kickoff menu!

That's like the habit that "Switch sessions" leads to a krunner window with the test "SESSIONS" preselected, which has again to be confirmed to start a new X-session.

No real bugs, but examples of that many minor small annoying things that get on your nerves when trying KDE4. Couldn't all this be easily fixed?

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Re: Amarok
by JackieBrown on Thursday 20/Mar/2008, @16:26

For the kickoff thing

Go to system settings --- advance --- session manager and uncheck confirm logout and offer shutdown options.

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Re: Amarok
by Aldoo on Friday 21/Mar/2008, @06:36

Any way to add "hibernate" in the kickoff menu ?
Now, the only way to start hibernation is to use the confirmation dialog, and use the secondary choices on the "shut down" button. I think that is way too much convoluted !
(and that almost never work, btw, although hibernation works when started manually with the s2disk command, or with guidance-power-manager)

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Re: Amarok
by anonymous on Monday 24/Mar/2008, @05:16

Once again, BAD DEFAULT SETTINGS is the thing where KDE *truly* excels... This is the way it's always been and probably always will be :(

"Go to system settings --- advance --- session manager and uncheck confirm logout and offer shutdown options."

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