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by Jeremy on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @13:39
Its a good interview, one of the best in awhile. Though, I'm concerned on how bias he was when answering questions.

"The desktop problem has been solved many years ago. Try to compare Windows XP with KDE 3: nobody in their right mind would choose Windows over GNU/Linux based on the desktop experience alone."

When I had Kubuntu installed with KDE 3.5 and a regular 15 year old friend over. He started to get frustrated while using KDE and wanted to use XP again and luckily I had a duel boot. It shows something, though hopefully he will have better reviews with KDE 4 but until alot of people like XP. There have been others, I have two other friends that hate when I have linux installed.


Also, can't wait for that hidden project. I hate how he said that, thats one irritating tease.
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by Nick Shaforostoff on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @14:20
you shouldn't thrust Linux that much, i suppose. just show them that you don't have problems they have to face when using win32.
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by Ian Monroe on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @15:03
The founder of KDE is biased? Whaaa?
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    by Max on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @13:52
    rofl :)


    News at 11. So true :)
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by Lubos Lunak on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @15:32
> He started to get frustrated while using KDE and wanted to use XP again

That's not choosing XP based on the desktop experience alone. Your friend presumably wanted XP because he was familiar with it and wasn't with KDE. That's not 'desktop experience alone', just like e.g. hardware support or number of games available are not.
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by anon on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @18:34
The article is a bit stupid. For example, compare XP with KDE 3. Xp is what, 7 years old. Of course kde 3. is better than such an old platform. But, still with XP you can use more technology than with KDE, so if given the choice, if I wanted a computer that performed with high quality software I would go with XP, because at the moment the linux applications are still the major let down to linux.
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    by winter on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @21:58
    Is XP really 7 years old? Then can we count from KDE 3.0? Since I'm sure XP has had upgrades since it was first released. ;)
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    by Leo S on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @23:10
    Xp was released Oct 25, 2001. KDE 3.0 was released April 3, 2002. Both have received updates since then. So that's only just over a 5 month difference. It's perfectly fair to compare them.
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      by Sebastian on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @06:51
      But was KDE 3.0 better than XP? 3.5 is better, indeed...
      And it would be unfair to compare the release cycles of XP SP 1,2,... with KDE 3.1, 3.2, 3.5 etc. KDE intended to offer a large set of new features within these dot releases while XP service packs intended to update the underlying technology while offering mainly fixes in the desktop area... Even if we know that KDE4 will catch and pass by Vista within the next 12 month easily we still do not know what MS develops under the hood...
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        by Leo S on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @09:40
        >> But was KDE 3.0 better than XP?

        Absolutely. XP before service pack 1 was a pretty poor operating system if you recall. Many apps were not compatible, driver support was attrocious, performance on machines of the day was poor, security was absolutely terrible (until SP2 actually).

        >> KDE intended to offer a large set of new features within these dot releases while XP service packs intended to update the underlying technology while offering mainly fixes in the desktop area

        Not entirely true. Yes, the KDE Desktop got many new features, but most of those new features were in the applications, which happen to be bundled instead of distributed separately like on windows. Similarly, Windows applications got many new features in this timeline. The base kdelibs didn't change so drastically between 3.0 and 3.5, just like the Windows base didn't change drastically either.
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by winter on Wednesday 26/Mar/2008, @22:08
"...I have two other friends that hate when I have linux installed."

What? Do you uninstall it when your done?

I annoys me when people use MS software. ;)
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by Adrian Baugh on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @06:06
Naturally he got frustrated - it's different from what he's used to. People got frustrated when using Windows 95 after getting used to Windows 3.x because it was different. Perhaps eventually he'll get fed up with Windows' limitations and change, perhaps not. But for someone new to computers (maybe a child getting their first computer) it's hard to make a case that they would choose Windows over Gnome, KDE or OSX on the basis of the desktop experience.
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by andy on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @13:52
I made the experiment with my parents.

It was impossible for them, e.g. when suddenly applications are in English or downloading mails does not work with Kmail.

I found out how overloaded the interface still is and how misleading.

think about the little problems you run into and fix on the fly and what someone else would do who cannot even deal with a remote control.
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