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Re: Looking forward to this
by James Ots on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @09:30
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Don't worry - they work fine in a KDE4 desktop. Still, it's probably worth waiting for 4.1 as 4.0.2 is still a little light on features, although stability is getting reasonable - reasonable enough for me to run it full time now.
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Re: Looking forward to this
by Anon on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @15:35
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Everybody knows that KDE3 apps (as well as Gnome apps as well as X apps as well as...) can be run in a KDE4 environment. No need to stress this every time the subject comes up!!
However, I see it like the original poster: I like a desktop environment where everything fits in. Currently, KDE3 apps don't seem to be any more at home in KDE4 as e.g. a Gnome app: The filetype associations are taken from a (maybe not even existing) KDE3 desktop setup, same goes for hotplugging of e.g. the media devices in Amarok and so on. Thus, you need a full fledged and seperately configured KDE3 installation to run & set up single KDE3 apps in KDE4, and that's not really what I call downwards compatibility - I can have the same level of compatibility with apps from about any other Unix desktop environment.
As there seems to be no effort to iseamlessly ntegrate KDE3 apps into a KDE4 environment, it's for me very understandable that some users look forward for killer apps like k3B, amarok and so an natively in KDE4!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Looking forward to this
by nf2 on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @20:17
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The whole problem started with the combination of "Desktop" and "Environment". Yes - there can be multiple desktops - but there can be only one "Environment".
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Re: Looking forward to this
by Anon on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @22:26
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Yeah, but it would be great if at least KDE3 apps would not just be running in a KDE4 environment, but fit perfectly in: Common Mime-types, common handling of removable devices and so on. There should be some kind of compatibility layer for KDE3 in KDE4, as long as you're officialy encouraged to use KDE3 apps until their KDE4 equivalents are up to date.
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Re: Looking forward to this
by Anon on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @17:50
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Considering things like these are getting fd.o standardised the move from KDE 3 to 4 may well be the last one without any such "compatibility layer".
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Re: Looking forward to this
by JackieBrown on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @17:26
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K3b from extragears (where else) has been working fine for me for the past month.
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Re: Looking forward to this
by KAMiKAZOW on Thursday 27/Mar/2008, @19:15
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Regarding Kontact: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/KDEPIM4.1onKDE4.0/
It allows you to use Kontact with a stable KDE 4.0.x release instead of using the UNSTABLE branch for everything.
It has a few quirks, but overall I found it to work quite well.
If you encounter bugs, post them to https://bugzilla.novell.com/ -- not KDE's Bugzilla because PIM4.1onKDE4.0 is not an official KDE branch. I included "KDEPIM4.1onKDE4.0" in the summary line of the bug reports I posted to make them easier to find.
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Re: Looking forward to this
by Max on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @13:54
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K3b and Amarok would be enough for many people to switch exclusively to Linux/KDE.
It's crazy how high the buzz around Amarok is. Hope there will be more updates and demo vids as the final version approaches. We need stuff to feed the rumor mill and college bulletin boards with. :)
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