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Re: Bad promotion
by anon on Friday 28/Mar/2008, @14:15
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I view kde4 like vista.
Vista is the driving force of people leaving Windows. I believe KDE4 will be the driving force that has people shift to Gnome. I really don't like that it looks so much like windows. But thankfully, Opensuse really don't like the look of it either and will be adding their own touches to it to make it look more like opensuse before they release it in 11. So here's hoping they can improve it. |
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Re: Bad promotion
by Wade on Friday 28/Mar/2008, @14:33
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I view anon troll posts here like I view anon troll posts on other forums.
These posts are the driving force to help people realize they have to make up their own mind and choose software that works well for them. I really don't like that anon troll posts bait me into replying. But thankfully, millions around the marble appreciate the hard work put into KDE. So here's hoping they continue to enjoy it.
See how just a few word changes can make something positive? Please keep criticism 1) constructive 2) clear 3) actionable.
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Re: Bad promotion
by ne... on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @01:38
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Amen, brotha, amen. I for one switched _permanently_ to KDE4 a long time ago and see no reason to go back. Please count as one of the silent many who greatfully use KDE. I see the improvements everytime I update my openSUSE 10.3 install. Fact is, I have not used my FC installs since I started using KDE4. So in closing, all I can say/write is please continue the good work you are doing.KDE4.0 was released at the right time.
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Re: Bad promotion
by Bobby on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @05:21
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The technology under the hood of KDE 4 is what will drive the "interface nazies" (Gnome Users) to KDE unlike what the troll a-non want people to believe. KDE 4 is not quite ready for the masses yet but when it is then I am sure that it will blow away any- and everything out there including OS X. This is something that the Gnomes should worry about ;)
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Re: Bad promotion
by Jos And on Friday 28/Mar/2008, @15:48
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I do agree that it will drive people to Gnome - but that will depend on KDE 4.1 or maybe 4.2 and depond on what K/Ubuntu will do, since its such a popular distro (even tough Kubuntu feels unpolished compared to Ubuntu DE-integrationwise) . I was glad to learn that Kubuntu still will have 3.5.9 along KDe 4.0-x - If it only had 4.0.2 then i would after 10 years have left for Gnome - i wond do it this time.
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Re: Bad promotion
by Bobby on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @05:27
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KUbuntu is not a very good example of what a KDE distro should be like.
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Re: Bad promotion
by Pol on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @10:59
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Can you please elaborate a bit?
As an end-user, confronting concepts about 'good linux distributions' is appealing.
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Re: Bad promotion
by Morty on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @13:30
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Several of the modifications they make to KDE are less than well thought out. They are supposed to be some kind of usability improvements, but in most cases it's only removal of functionality whitout any real gain in usability.
But I find the most telling is when you watch Bugzilla, it seem like it has a higher amount of distribution specific bugs than other distributions. Bugs that don't exist if you compile KDE from source or use other distributions.
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Re: Bad promotion
by Bobby on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @21:17
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Install KUbuntu, PCLinuxOS and openSuse 10.3 on the same computer, all running KDE and then you will understand what I mean.
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Re: Bad promotion
by Debian User on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @10:13
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Hello,
it's not like there is no chance for return if somebody tries out Gnome now, he can always switch back, once KDE has surpassed Gnome again.
There is one reason to have 2 big desktop projects, and that is to allow the users to use them both and switch between them without hassle.
Yours,
Kay
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Re: Bad promotion
by T. J. Brumfield on Friday 28/Mar/2008, @16:18
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First off, as it has been said, anon posters have no sack.
Secondly, you're talking about comparing KDE 4 to Gnome. Why? If you're not happy using KDE 4 right now (and many aren't) there is KDE 3.5.9, which is still being supported. If you honestly think Gnome is better than KDE 3.5.9, then why haven't you switched already? Please do so, and stop posting here.
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Re: Bad promotion
by Debian User on Saturday 29/Mar/2008, @10:10
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Hello,
actually I _did_ switch to Gnome on my work desktop out of complete disappointment with KDE4.0.x and my desire to try out something new (I have not tried Gnome since 1.4 days methinks).
Truth is, it's not as good as KDE 3.5.x, but the compositing of Metacity is one of a mature window manager and therefore practical as such.
It's also true that Tracker appears to work and be well integrated, where as Strigi never really worked for me.
Of course gg: and my custom variants of it are much missed in Epiphany now, so that's a bigger drawback.
But on the whole, it's not an as bad experience. In KDE 4.1.x I will return as a user, but for now it's good to break with habits. And KDE 4.0.x, seriously, is such a total and complete failure due to Plasma, that the KDE president should step down. ;-) It certainly would have the right drama about it, not... but still. :-)
Yours,
Kay
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Re: Bad promotion
by m0ns00n on Sunday 30/Mar/2008, @05:21
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I switched to XFCE. I see the whole KDE 4.0 move as a partial betrayal to their current users. I personally just don't know how people can love KDE 4.0. In my opinion it is going in the completely wrong direction. It has become "trendy", "hyped" and not easier to use.
XFCE is not as feature complete as KDE 3.x, but in my opinion it is certainly more mature than KDE 4, and I don't really care what is under the hood, I care about the user experience, and where it is going.
Seeing that KDE 4 probably will keep evolving towards what is Vista and MacOS X(with a windows touch), I thought switching to something else now would be a good idea. Some said that KDE 3.5.9 would be the last 3.x release, and in addition, v4 is clearly blocking the 3.x path, so, KDE as I know it is seemingly dead.
BTW: those who point out twm/blackbox etc as "Light" alternatives are clearly wrong. AmigaOS 1.3 had more features than those and ran on a 7mhz computer. Why nobody has made a truly light weight desktop which is truly *fast* is beyond me. Perhaps programmers have become sloppy and ignorant to effective use of resources. In other words, you don't need megabytes of ram to show icons in a window =)
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