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Re: forking konqueror !
by Sutoka on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @14:24
Theres not really anything stopping anyone from writing a full web browser based on either QtWebKit or KHTML (or both).

I think it'd be interesting to see what a web browser equivalent of Dolphin would look like. I'd imagine it'd be much easier to maintain than something like Konqueror (which'd make sense, as Konqueror is far more than just a web browser), and fortunately most of the KDE infrastructure like KWallet is quite easy to use (I'd imagine the other side would be harder, i.e. knowing when you need the information and where to put it into the webkit/khtml widget). You could use something like Kross and D-Bus to allow plugins in a variety of languages as well.

I've actually been planning on trying my hand at writing a web browser based on QtWebKit in Qt4.4 (I did some work with Tech Preview 1, but ran into some bugs with QtWebKit in that version, and the Beta1 build for Windows didn't include the binaries needed for QtWebKit and I haven't gotten around to compiling it myself on Windows or Linux). If I /do/ make something thats somewhat decent I'll probably post it to kde-apps.org. And who knows, it may actually attract some attention and eventually be included in KDE 4.some-really-large-number (in which case I'd want to add support for using KHTML as an alternative backend).
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A Dolphin-esk web browser
by kwilliam on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @21:23
"I think it'd be interesting to see what a web browser equivalent of Dolphin would look like."

It's interesting, because Dolphin started out to be a simple, Nautilus-like file manager, but has become more powerful in some respects than Konqueror for file managing. (I like the favorites dropdown in the address bar and the Columns view.) Include tabs, port a few more of the views from KDE 3, and allow more than two folders in "Split View", and Dolphin would be completely superior for file managing. If a "simple" web browser was started based on WebKit, it might quickly surpass Konqueror in web browsing functionality. Don't get me wrong, I love Konqueror (I use it's split views all the time), but there doesn't seem much advantage to having a web browser and a file manager combined. Aside from forward and back buttons, there's almost nothing in common between web browsing and file browsing.
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  • simple web browser Re: A Dolphin-esk web browser
    by Anon on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @01:15
    > If a "simple" web browser was started based on WebKit, it might quickly surpass Konqueror in web browsing functionality.

    Why does everyone assume this?

    a) Read the post farther up saying what KDE-integration functionality you'd lose.

    b) Where would all these magic developers come from? Lots of hype, no action.

    c) Someone already started a WebKit browser. It doesn't do much.
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    • Re: simple web browser Re: A Dolphin-esk web brows
      by Louai Al-Khanji on Wednesday 02/Apr/2008, @15:33
      If the browser you are referring to is safra in playground then that someone is me. It's a very young project, patience. ;) I'm also waiting for qt-copy to be updated.
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  • Re: A Dolphin-esk web browser
    by Grósz Dániel on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @12:42
    What Konqueror has is not specifically web browsing or file management - it can display whatever type of file (directory, html, pdf etc. with kparts) which is accessed via whatever protocol (file:, http:, ftp: etc. with kio slaves). File management (directory via file: or sometimes ftp:, sftp: etc.) and web browsing (html, sometimes pdf, doc, etc. via http: or https:) are special cases of this, but not the only case that someone may want to use.
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  • Re: A Dolphin-esk web browser
    by Grósz Dániel on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @12:47
    However, most of the kparts have a standalone application also (kpdf part has kpdf, etc., now file management dolphin part has dolphin) so a standalone app for html browsing wouldn't be a problem, if someone writes it. However, most web browsers are able to display not only html, but pdf and other file types also. That's what Konqueror can do easily and it would be silly not to reuse the kparts technology - and if a browser reuses kparts to display whatever file type, it is essentially the same as Konqueror.
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