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by Lirpa on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @16:27

Finally! Now I can open that .docx thingies.

For some more MS interoperability it would be cool if KDE could support DirectX 11 in Plasma:

http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/03/31/1423247.shtml

A raytraced sun dial on the desktop would rock!

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Re: Cool!
by JeanPaul on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @16:53

I think any usable directX 11 support for the coming 4-5 years is not feasible, seeing the progress on directX 9 and 10 at this moment in Wine.

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Re: Cool!
by Jonathan Thomas on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @17:43

DirectX 9 support is pretty much complete. Well, not complete as in completely bug free, but all core functionality should be implemented.
DirectX 10 on the other hand is completely stubbed... But hey, that was just released.

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Re: Cool!
by Santiago on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @18:50

But why wait all that time for wine to catch up to directX11? We should demand raytraced thingies on plasma right NOW!!! even if it works only on Windows. That will motivate the linux hippies to improve their support to those innovative technologies.

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Re: Cool!
by Riddle on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @20:45

Uh, may I ask you 2 things:
1) What is raytracing?
2) DirectX is a Windows-specific technology, so by all rights, Linux has no business supporting it (Linux uses OpenGL which seems about >= DirectX). Wine-DirectX seems to be a loose-wrapper around OpenGL.

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Re: Cool!
by Stefan Majewsky on Monday 31/Mar/2008, @23:46

1) Raytracing AFAIK means that a virtual ray is send from each point of your view. It is reflected and thereby manipulated by objects in its way until it hits a light source. Then the effects are added on the source's color to get the pixel to display at this point of your view. (The ray may also go the other way, I do not know exactly.)

2) What you mean with "wrapper around OpenGL" is the Wine implementation of DirectDraw and Direct3D. There are more components like DirectPlay (comparable with GStreamer or Xine) and some other minor additions. DirectX is sort of a toolkit for Windows game programmers than just a rendering library.

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Re: Cool!
by Riddle on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @21:20

2) Wine HQ states that Wine DirectDraw (http://wiki.winehq.org/DirectDraw), if it can, uses OGL, and Wine Direct3D (http://wiki.winehq.org/WineD3D) is specifically described as "Wraps up OpenGL to implement an interface for use by Direct3D 7, 8 and 9". Also, (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6847) says that "Wine does not implement any DirectPlay providers itself". Others, such as DirectShow (http://wiki.winehq.org/DirectShow), seem to use the native decoder libraries. So, in general, Wine DirectX is simply a wrapper on top of native libraries.

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Re: Cool!
by luciano on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @00:07

To be fair, KDE has had direct X11 support since ages...

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Re: Cool!
by Tim on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @00:54

Heh, not too nit-pick, but that should be "has had direct X11 support *for* ages..." I've seen loads of other people say "since ages". Why is that such a common mistake?

Hmm someone else obviously got annoyed by it!: http://www.usingenglish.com/poll/23.html

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Re: Cool!
by Hias on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @03:28

I can only tell for germans, but the "for" from above would be in this context in german "seit" which is more similar to "since". The most common mistake from germans is "become"<->"get", so don't be sureprised if you are in a steakhouse and you heare something like "when do I become my steak", because in german "bekommen" means "get"

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Re: Cool!
by Diederik van der Boor on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @05:53

It happens when people translate their foreign language to English.

In some foreign languages it's common to use construct like that. When translated literally, it becomes "since ages" which is incorrect English. Likewise, in Dutch you're "op school" which is literally translated "on school", not "at school". These prefixes are a hard part to learn English.

I think you can imagine now why people make these kind of mistakes. ;-)

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Re: Cool!
by reader on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @10:22

"It happens when people translate their foreign language to English."

...and vice versa.
When they, the Germans (or is Germen? German's, Germen's?) tranlate "We have a lot to do in 2008" from English into German, they say "Wir haben in 2008 viel zu tun". But that's wrong, it should be translated to "Wir haben 2008 viel zu tun." The same goes wit Apostrophes and Apostrophe's and Apo'strophe's, and with "seid"/"seit". And there is another one, wich I think is a failed translation. They say "Wenn jemand physikalischen Zugang zu einem Computer hat, kann er damit alles mögliche anstellen."
But that's wrong. It should read: "Wenn jemand physischen Zugang zu einem Computer hat, kann er damit alles mögliche anstellen."
In Germany we have clothing for "Men's", we have bakeries called "Back Shops" (and of course we have "Back Shop's" too) and we have "Coffee To Go" and so on. And "googeln" can be found in our dictionaries, as the verb for Google.

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Re: Cool!
by MarcG on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @22:25

Mad, the thing with the apostrophes is annoying to no end... especially when used with plural-s ... those f*ng german retards i have to live with!

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Re: Cool!
by Robert Millan on Tuesday 01/Apr/2008, @02:25

As if those .docx thingies had anything to do with Open XML ;-)

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