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Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration?
by Yuriy Kozlov on Wednesday 02/Apr/2008, @13:54

Thanks for the great work on Digikam!

Since you discussed a new database schema and more metadata, I was wondering if this is all being stored (and searchable) using Nepomuk and Strigi or if Digikam is maintaining its own database? It would be great if all metadata in Digikam, including tags, ratings, as well as camera information, could be shared with the rest of the desktop. For example, Dolphin now has tags and ratings for files. For pictures, this should be the same ratings you see in Digikam, or whatever other photo application one might be using.

I'm actually wondering the same thing about Amarok. This is the kind of integration I look forward to seeing throughout KDE 4.

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration?
by Gilles Caulier on Wednesday 02/Apr/2008, @14:12

Nepomuk integration is planed for the future, but it's not the priority actually : it's time to stabilize source code to be able to release for september.

Gilles Caulier

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration?
by DigiKam lover on Thursday 03/Apr/2008, @09:12

I'm sorry to hear that. Please reconsider as it is one of KDE's key features to offer broad integration. It is one of the features what makes it shine compared to other Desktops. Database applications like DigiKam should promote this feature as soon as possible. DigiKam on the other hand will only gain in importance, insight, influence and momentum.

Anyway keep up the great work!

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration?
by Fri13 on Monday 07/Apr/2008, @01:48

I dont see reason to horry nepomuk integration. I think digiKam has great handling with photographs with it's own ratings and tags. Later nepomuk support would be nice but now I dont see any reason for it. Because I dont see Digikam as a tool for "normal joe" who just browse wallpapers and other images what avarage joe downloads from internet. DigiKam is for professional/hobby photographers , who keeps digikam running anyway when needed to handle big amounts of photographs and easily to manage those.
Later that nepomuk integration can be nice but.... Mayby I'm just wrong person to judge that with my photograph library what includes tens of thousands of photos and browsing those with nepomuk sounds bad because I need to have tags and comments on photos and albums what I dont want to find when doing desktop search.

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration?
by Gilles Caulier on Monday 07/Apr/2008, @02:30

I'm totally agree with this viewpoint. There is not urgency to include Nepomuk support for 0.10.0 release. Of course, later, when new digiKam core Database interface will be stabilized, something can be done to connect digiKam database to nepomuk. But in all case, later 0.10.0 relesase...

Gilles Caulier

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration
by DigiKamLover on Monday 07/Apr/2008, @03:05

No need to hurry indeed, BUT... ther are at least 4 people requesting it (read "KDE 4.1?", so you are basically the only one who thinks "browsing those with nepomuk sound bad"

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration?
by outolumo on Tuesday 08/Apr/2008, @10:07

Great work! I for one am looking forward to stable KDE4 release :-)

As for Nepomuk integration, I'm really waiting for that as well, because I understand that it will not only offer the infrastructure to do the indexing (tagging) and allows for the same lightspeed categrization and search we are used to with digiKam, but also allows tight integration with other apps in the platform: marble with the GPS -data, akonadi integration etc. So far my major reason for not using digiKam to its full capacity has been the problem, that its not se well integrated with the desktop.

For example, I have some 6,000 photos, for which digiKam is great editor, but I'd like integrate a hoard of non-photos with slightly different needs to the same system. And I want to tag them all, and I want to tag audiofiles and keynotes in the same system. Somehow I just don't see why I should manage my .mp3 and .xcf -files with digiKam. And if I have to tag these all, why use digiKam. It's a fine editor but lacking integration keeps me from using it more.

I would think that from the developer's perspective using existing tools is a good idea, because then one can concentrate on the essential. From the user point of view being able to swicth from one tool - digiKam - that is great for one thing, to another, say Dolphin, Marble or Gwenview, which has different strenghts, is a motivation to use the stuff.

At the moment the issue seems to be that XMP is malformed RDF, and thus 1-10% of the XMP metadata is in danger of being lost in conversion to RDF. The sooner we get a uniform access to the metadata, the better. Therefore I really look forward to integrating all these great new digiKam features into the wider desktop, so that I can keep on using it when the stable KDE4 release comes out in the fall.

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration
by andy on Thursday 03/Apr/2008, @00:33

What I fail to get is why it is important that applications ship with KDE4.x.

aptitude install digikam

should work, no?

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration
by cruzki on Thursday 03/Apr/2008, @02:06

Yes, but you lost the advertising of a full release. And worse, you can miss the release of digikam if you are not trakking the web or similar.

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Re: Database? Metadata? Strigi/Nepomuk integration
by andy on Thursday 03/Apr/2008, @12:06

apt-get update ??

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