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Great work
by Louai Al-Khanji on Monday 21/Apr/2008, @13:51
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| I really appreciate the great work, thanks all. At the same time I have to say it was pretty annoying that plasma was that broken in trunk ;) I think doing the API transition at least for the core parts in a branch would have been great. |
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Re: Great work
by Aaron Seigo on Monday 21/Apr/2008, @16:59
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well, a branch was used for the WoC introduction (which is what caused the breakages). the branch was getting very brittle however (yay, svn!) as trunk and it continued to be developed simultaneously with lots of activity in each. checking out a second branch for all the plasma code was also a bit too much to ask, and we had limited time at hand (4 days in total) to get things working so expediency was a primary issue.
yes, it's pretty easy to sit on the outside and make obversations as to what would've been better, but it often gets a bit more "interesting" when you're actually faced with the reality of the everything that must be considered for these decisions.
it's also interesting how many people assume trunk/ will always be 100% functioning, though: it says a quite a lot about the high level of stability usually seen in the main development branch.
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Re: Great work
by Louai Al-Khanji on Monday 21/Apr/2008, @20:20
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Well, I do try to help out as I can, so I am not "sitting on the outside" in that sense. I have an svn account and occasionally submit fixes here and there. The thing is, to do that effectively does require a functional desktop - in this case the plasma breakage came as a bit of a surprise as I missed the announcement on kcd. I elected to fall back to KDE3 kicker.
I do not assume that trunk always functions 100%, that's not reasonable. I do assume that the major parts compile, as per the svn guidelines, which for a (short) while wasn't true.
Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to give some constructive feedback.
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Re: Great work
by Ménard Alexis on Tuesday 22/Apr/2008, @00:50
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Trunk is for development by definition, so it's normal to have breakages. I'm sorry but when the merge was done kdebase was ok for compilation so it's correct with svn guidelines. Plasma sprint was announced some weeks ago, with a WoC planned. Applets in PLAYground and EXTRAgear was broken but it's additionnals applets. There is a lot of plasma applets all around the code base so it's normal that applets not compile.
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Re: Great work
by R. J. on Monday 21/Apr/2008, @20:05
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I think people forget that this is all still in the making, still "beta", and that things will get broken, fixed, re-broken, then fixed again as it goes on. If you're not interested in having parts of KDE broken, then you.
btw, I hope dot will link to the new screenshots of opensuse 11 beta 1. Some good work there with KDE in the screenshots ;)
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Re: Great work
by R. J. on Monday 21/Apr/2008, @20:07
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I think people forget that this is all still in the making, still "beta", and that things will get broken, fixed, re-broken, then fixed again as it goes on. If you're not interested in having parts of KDE broken, then you shouldn't be running kde 4 until 4.1. Although I am finding it all very interesting, and very stable.
btw, I hope dot will link to the new screenshots of opensuse 11 beta 1. Some good work there with KDE in the screenshots ;)
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