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GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by Tray on Wednesday 23/Apr/2008, @23:09
Unforunately, Google prefers to throw money at the GNOME office suite, which got 19 spots, compared to KOffice's 7: gnumeric 3, abisource 6, gimp 5, inkscape 5

Overall, GNOME still got more projects (58): Gnome Office 19, Gnome 30, Cairo 3, Pidgin 6

Google should allow KOffice and Kopete to register separately in order to make it fair.
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Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by Thomas Zander on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @00:47
Last year KOffice completed just 5[1], so 7 is certainly up. It should also be noted that KOffice has gotten less developers, the code that last years SoC devs wrote still is not released and some has been obsoleted even.
I think its not that useful to talk about numbers here, lets focus on getting the most out of it. Like long lasting new developers and good code contributions.

With 7 I think KOffice can be very happy. I know I am :)

1) http://dot.kde.org/1188249220/
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Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by Nae on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @01:02
NOT. gimp isn't gnome, inkscape isn't gnome. also pidgin.
Those are all GTK+ apps (as we can have Qt apps), not so bound
to the DE as you seem to believe.

Them are not part of any office suite, and you would be surprised
if you knew how much kde users also use gimp or inkscape
(with no offense for anyone but them are still fairly above the quality
level/number of users of Krita and Karbon).
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  • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
    by Grósz Dániel on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @06:50
    "gimp isn't gnome, inkscape isn't gnome. also pidgin."

    Then don't count KOffice and Kopete as KDE.

    "them are still fairly above the quality level/number of users of Krita and Karbon"

    Krita has some features that GIMP doesn't and it is likely that it will be better than GIMP short time after 2.0.
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    • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
      by T. J. Brumfield on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @09:03
      Gimp isn't developed by the core Gnome developers, nor Inkscape, etc.

      Heck, last time I checked, those were multiplatform apps, where as Gnome is *nix only.

      Kopete is shipped as a core KDE app these days, isn't it? Koffice is in the KDE SVN repository, yet has its own release schedule, but it is closely tied to KDE.
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      • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
        by Boudewijn Rempt on Friday 25/Apr/2008, @00:11
        So? Gimp is in the Gnome svn repository, uses the Gnome bugzilla and has extra support for gnome technologies it doesn't offer on other desktops.
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    • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
      by ad on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @15:14
      Gimp and Inkscape are not Gnome applications. They are simple GTK ones.
      KOffice and Kopete are KDE applications.

      It's not a matter of 'opinion'. It's a fact.
      It has to do with which libraries they use.
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      • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
        by Grósz Dániel on Friday 25/Apr/2008, @10:49
        I know. But the comparison does not show anything if we compare the accepted projects for KDE containing an office suite and an instant messenger with the accepted projects of GNOME not containing those. The fair comparison is to compare GNOME with KDE-KOffice-Kopete because GNOME does not contain them, so KDE with them is a bigger project and, as such, could have received more projects.
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        • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
          by Marc Driftmeyer on Friday 02/May/2008, @16:17
          What the hell are you talking about? Does Krita run without KDE installed? Does Gimp run without GNOME installed?

          End of story.
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Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by fred on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @01:05
IMO this is not because Google prefers GNOME Office or GNOME to KDE but more because KDE is one big umbrella organization, for KOffice, Amarok, pim, network, education, etc. It would be nice to get separate organization for example Amarok, KOffice for next year, but for now lets be grateful for what we've had.

(And also, some projects are not GNOME project directly, but GTK+ projects (e.g: pidgin) - so a bit hard to compare directly).

P.S: Is there really a GNOME Office? As far as I know it is only few separated applications branded as "Office suite".
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  • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
    by Anon on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @17:07
    GNOME likes (liked?) to pretend there is http://live.gnome.org/GnomeOffice
    But in a world where even OOo and Firefox are often seen as/claimed to be GTK+/GNOME apps this doesn't mean much indeed.
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Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by anon on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @01:19
I find it sad that you create such a negative post with your commented that unfortunately they prefer gnome. Sour grapes in your post.

I sometimes get bored of the linux community. I get tired of the whole attitude some have between gnome vs kde. And the attitude between distro vs distro.

Perhaps your sour grapes can be dropped and you can congratulate Gnome on their accomplishments, after all, it is all about free and open software. And google is being fair, it's just your spoilt brat attitude towards Gnome needs to change.
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Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by Narishma on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @03:01
There is no such thing as Gnome Office. Also Pidgin, Gimp and Inkscape are not Gnome applications, and I'm not sure about Gnumeric and Abiword.
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  • Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
    by Soap on Thursday 24/Apr/2008, @19:42
    Just nitpicking here, but apparently there is such a thing as "GNOME Office". It's just not as integrated.

    It consists of Abiword, Gnumeric, and GNOME-DB.

    At least that's according to Gnumeric's website: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/ and wikipedia.

    The abiword website barely even mentions GNOME or even gtk (but it's there). GNOME-DB of course mentions GNOME, but I didn't look hard enough to find a mention of GNOME Office.

    Oh, and Gnumeric is an official gnome project.

    Abiword and Gnumeric are both very good apps. I actually tend to use them over the KOffice counterparts, and I'm a KDE fan boy. KSpread didn't have XY-scatter, and its calculation dependencies were innefficient (to the point of crashing), so I had to use gnumeric. However, to print, I had to open the spreadsheets up in KSpread for good PDFs.

    From what I've read, the 2 problems I had with KSpread are fixed in 2.0, so I've got my fingers crossed.
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Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by she on Monday 28/Apr/2008, @04:44
This point is moot. Abisource runs without most gnome libraries.

Cairo too.

What are you talking about? You cant bundle individual components together.
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Re: GNOME still got more projects (58) :-(
by Axl on Saturday 03/May/2008, @02:07
GNOME Office?

Last time I checked, it wastn't a suite, just a bunch of useful apps for office work.
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