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Re: wow
by Alex on Tuesday 29/Apr/2008, @16:33
> Yep, that was needed. We did the following two things:

Yes, sure. But from my POV, plasma has been the component which receives most criticism in KDE 4.0.x. So finishing the announcement for the first 4.1 alpha with "expect more breakage in plasma" is IMO "suboptimal".

Alex
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Re: wow
by DR on Tuesday 29/Apr/2008, @16:43
Thats what KDE 3.5.9 is for.

KDE 4.0.3 is usable(have been using it as my only desktop for over a month now, and have not had any serious issues with it.)

Anyway, I downloaded the Suse 4.1 live cd. It had a lot of problems with plasmoids(none of them worked) but the basic desktop worked perfectly. It also looks amazing.
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Re: wow
by Jonathan Thomas on Tuesday 29/Apr/2008, @17:35
If people using an alpha get mad because Plasma is somewhat broken, then its their own fault. Breakage while implementing new features are what alphas are all about in the software world. (Though in the past we've been spoiled by high-stability KDE pre-releases.)
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Re: wow
by dkite on Tuesday 29/Apr/2008, @21:54
What was written reflects my experience over the last weeks. I am reassured when what I read fits what I see.

This is good.

Derek
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Re: wow
by anon on Tuesday 29/Apr/2008, @23:24
I'm honestly getting bored of people using alpha and beta software and complaining when things aren't working, that is the point of alpha's and beta's. KDE 4 is still a beta. Released to get people to port to it. It is not something that anyone should use if they want a stable release. It's release was solely to get people porting applications to it and for people to test and find bugs.
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Re: wow
by sebas on Wednesday 30/Apr/2008, @03:48
Well, I wrote it because it's a fact. Tagging happened in the middle of the API review porting, and when that happened, it was broken even for most of the Plasma developers -- let alone tested for users. Sure, Plasma got lots of flak in the past, but we're working hard to make it better.

The last sentence in the announcement is all about not raising too high expectations for this Alpha, especially if you gauge Plasma. Even if things have settled down considerably by now already, what people that install Alpha1 will see is that Plasma is broken in lots of places. People can have a look into our 'kitchen', but should be able to stand the heat then.

That said, the next pre-release will be much, much better with respect to Plasma.

Other components, I'm not so worried about. What I'm running right now (latest SVN) looks rockstable already.
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