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Re: wow
by Janne on Wednesday 30/Apr/2008, @11:35
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"Wow, are you kidding? I heard it practically daily in the run-up to KDE 4.0 when everybody was complaining about it being unstable. It was the standard excuse for why 4.0 was so buggy."
The thing I have heard is that 4.1 is the version that should match 3.x in terms of feature-set. And now that they add new features, you whine? And if they didn't add new functionality, you would whine that "we were promised that 4.1 will have all these new bells and whistles!".
And like I said: are there any indications that 4.1 will be buggy? Yes, 4.1 alpha has some issues. That's why it's an alpha-release, and not the final gold master. What you are doing is complaining because the next major version of KDE has new code and functionality, and some bugs in the alpha-release. YOu somehow extrapolate from the alpha-release that "4.1 will be buggy!", even though several people have said that Plasma in SVN-snapshots is coming along nicely.
And what is this about the developement-process? Are you somehow shocked that there's major rewrites and like between major releases? |
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Re: wow
by Jim on Thursday 01/May/2008, @10:36
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> YOu somehow extrapolate from the alpha-release that "4.1 will be buggy!"
I repeat myself:
> the point is not that Plasma is currently unstable, the point is that after telling everybody that 4.0 was the broken release and 4.1 was for stabilisation, they did the exact opposite and went ahead with more major changes to Plasma.
> Whether they pull it together and fix things before 4.1 is released is beside the point. Porting to new APIs while adding features does not increase stability, it does the opposite. The fact that they are willing to do that shows that the claims that 4.1 was the stabilisation release was just an excuse. The truth is that 4.0 was simply unfinished and moving to 4.1 is a case of completing all the development they wished they had done for 4.0.
> Are you somehow shocked that there's major rewrites and like between major releases?
I'm shocked that some people are saying that they are stabilising Plasma while simultaneously making major changes to it.
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Re: wow
by Janne on Friday 02/May/2008, @01:30
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"I'm shocked that some people are saying that they are stabilising Plasma while simultaneously making major changes to it."
So, do you believe that the plasma (or Kwin, or any other part of KDE) that we had in 4.0 will be the version we will have for all eternity? Like I said, major version-number (like 4.1 is) are there for major new features and functionality. And I bet that Plasma in 4.1 will be more stable and functional than Plasma in 4.0 was. They can do both: make big changes and make it stable.
Like I said before: instead of whining about Plasma, how about waiting until 4.1 is released before passing judgment on it?
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Re: wow
by hmmm on Friday 02/May/2008, @01:35
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Even though reality seems to have no impact on your opinions, try to spin that:
This rewrite was planned from the start to happen upon the release of Qt 4.4. The "breakage" was fixed within a week of the rewrite.
The rewrite was mandated, obvious, necessary because of WoC, and the fact that much of the logic originally in plasma is now found in Qt. The fact that this results in significantly simpler plasma code does not affect your opinion that obviously it _must_ introduce new bugs and hinder stability.
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