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Re: wow
by blah on Thursday 01/May/2008, @06:05
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>> Nobody said 4.1 was a `stabilization release'.
>
> Wow, are you kidding? I heard it practically
> daily in the run-up to KDE 4.0 when
> everybody was complaining about it being
> unstable. It was the standard excuse for
> why 4.0 was so buggy.
I'm with Jim here... You guys can deny it all you want, but this was the impression regular users where given. ("Yeah, KDE4.0 wasn't so good, but you just wait for KDE 4.1, man! I'll be great!")
KDE4 is shaping up to be a huge disappointment, and somewhat of a disaster. Oxygen looked good in theory, but the implementation is really bad with buttons and icons all over the place, the active window-problem, and different styles everywhere -- and plasma is still unstable. Then you go and introduce a new API? WTF?!
Is there *ever* a time to polish the way KDE4 look? Honestly, KDE4 looks like shit now. The GNOME-folks OTOH have done a great job polishing their DE, making it look really attractive and coherent (albeit somewhat of a throwback to Win2K looks-wise). It's time for me to upgrade, and as bad as KDE4 is looking now, I'm moving to GNOME... |
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Re: wow
by Jonathan Thomas on Thursday 01/May/2008, @06:36
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Just stop with the FUD. Before the API refactoring, Plasma was quite stable. And now, just slightly a week after said API refactoring, Plasma is stable once again. The API changes were necessary, and once all the obvious bugs that were introduced in the applets due to the API change are fixed, the base is only much more stable because it is now relying more on Qt4 code and less on custom Plasma code built to duplicate Qt4 features.
Read this for more, and keep in mind that what you are throwing a shit fit about is alpha software: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/04/on-recent-libplasma-changes.html
"Disaster"? Hardly. Currently alpha-staged software? Yes. There is no doubt in my mind that KDE 4.1 will be awesome.
P.S. The default Plasma theme will go under the polishing board, and Oxygen issues such as the inactive window "problem" are being addressed.
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Re: wow
by fred on Thursday 01/May/2008, @07:10
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WTF? Major complaint about KDE 4.0 is because it needs more features once we had in KDE 3.5.9, especially desktop and kicker. And now they want to make the desktop better and you still complaining?
And about KDE4 looks like shit, did you live under the rock when GNOME released their 2.0, or were you with your proprietary system? GNOME 2.0 looked like the worst single GUI on earth, and yes, they didn't have clearlooks or ubuntu-human that make GNOME looks so beautiful nowadays. Give them a time dude! I guess you even never tried KDE 4.0 or KDE 4.1 alpha.
My last advice: go troll somewhere else!!! Sometimes we just hate idiot users who can only complain and whine. And also, who the heck cares if you're moving to XYZ Desktop Environment?
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Re: wow
by Stefan Majewsky on Saturday 03/May/2008, @10:07
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> KDE4 is shaping up to be a huge disappointment, and somewhat of a disaster. Oxygen looked good in theory, but the implementation is really bad with buttons and icons all over the place, the active window-problem, and different styles everywhere
The "active window" problem is being worked on. Also, the appearance of Oxygen (as with any other style) is very subjective. If you do not like it, change the style.
> and plasma is still unstable. Then you go and introduce a new API? WTF?!
The last time Plasma crashed for me was during the KDE 4.0 beta phase. If you have crashes which are not caused by own incompetence (i.e. which are reproducible what I assume) report them.
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