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Re: wow
by Anon on Wednesday 30/Apr/2008, @09:21

Frankly, Plasma is becoming sufficiently powerful, flexible and easy to write for that someone would probably be able to re-implement Kicker and KDesktop using libplasma relatively easily. Heck, once the scripting API is a bit more stabilised, they'll probably be able to re-implement it Python/ Ruby, QtScript if they want, and you'll be able to install it using GetHotNewStuff!

The default configuration of your Plasma desktop is going to become more and more of a non-issue as it matures (except for first impressions, that is :))

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Re: wow
by JRT on Wednesday 30/Apr/2008, @10:52

>Frankly, Plasma is becoming ...

You seem to miss the point. If the existing KDE 3 DeskTop had been ported, it would be up and running NOW, not 6 months to a year from now.

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Re: wow
by Stefan Majewsky on Wednesday 30/Apr/2008, @12:13

Yes, it would be running _now_, but Plasma is being developed to run _now_ and _in the future_. Also, Plasma works great for me and my fellows, for example on openSUSE 11.0 Beta 1. I suspect the problems people are experiencing are due to lack of integration (the distributors need to step in here, just as the openSUSE people do) or simply personal incompetence.

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Re: wow
by Leo S on Wednesday 30/Apr/2008, @12:48

>> If the existing KDE 3 DeskTop had been ported, it would be up and running NOW, not 6 months to a year from now.

And plasma would be developed by the magical development fairies? Yes, there could have been kicker/kdesktop in KDE4. It would have taken a boatload of time, which means that plasma would have been delayed by about a year. So you would have kicker/kdesktop for at least another year (and it would be buggier than the KDE3 version because of the port), and then you wouldn't have a replacement for a long time. Sounds like a fantastic idea.

From your posts, it seems like you like to do everything the "proper" way. Rigorous design up front, then seamless migration paths, and stable the first time software. Well all that stuff is fine if you have unlimited resources. Fortunately most kde devs realize that time is limited, resources are limited, and the motivation of devs is limited, so all those things need to be balanced against the development effort. I've seen endless projects fail because they get stuck in endless planning, instead of getting something done.

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