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Re: great
by Joergen Ramskov on Friday 02/May/2008, @02:50
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"Kubuntu is no distribution, the distribution is called Ubuntu. And Ubuntu is not KDE centric."
I'm sorry, but that sentence makes no sense at all.
If you don't like Kubuntu, then by all means, switch to something else or help improve it. |
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Re: great
by fhd on Friday 02/May/2008, @03:58
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It was meant as an answer to this sentence:
"When will kubuntu get packages? Most KDE centric distributions have them already :/"
It implies that Kubuntu is a KDE centric distribution.
With my answer, I meant that Kubuntu is not a distribution, but a flavour of a distribution called "Ubuntu". And the distribution Ubuntu is not KDE centric.
With this answer, I was emphasizing my frustration about KDE in Ubuntu not getting the love it deserves.
I don't have time to really help improve it. I report the bugs I find and I critisize it (trying to be constructive of course, but shit happens) - that's it for now.
And my critisizing happens today, on the dot, in the post you just quoted.
That's my way to help Kubuntu - nothing will change if nobody complains.
And while complaining, I'm asking for alternatives with better KDE4 implementations. Can this be wrong?
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Re: great
by Jonathan Thomas on Friday 02/May/2008, @04:35
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Trust me, the Kubuntu team wants KDE 4.1 as much as you do. But it's not as simple as that, as Hardy Heron was just released, and KDE 4.1 will be released 3 months from now.
As of now, there has been absolutely no time to do any migration to KDE 4.1. This is in fact a huge job, and not one that could have been sanely accomplished in the time between now and hardy's release. You have Qt 4.4 that you have to migrate to, and then package. You have to write migration scripts for configuration files, and you have to do this without bugs. Then, you also have to package KDE 4.1. The Ubuntu developer's summit where this is all going to be concretely fleshed out hasn't even taken place yet.
The main problem is with the timings of the releases of *buntu and KDE. All of the above hurdles are related to the timings of Kubuntu and KDE releases. If you sync Kubuntu to KDE, people will complain about getting Kubuntu 3 months late. If you don't, and keep releases synced with Ubuntu, people will complain about not getting prerelease versions of KDE 4.1 as early as the other distributions. Trust me, the last thing that the Kubuntu team needs is people complaining, since they'll have people complaining about any choice that they make.
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Re: great
by xddule on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @01:03
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I don't think Kubuntu should by any case switch to kde 4.0.x or 4.1 till all impressions has been taken. Apparently, kde 4.x is a big mis, which takes me to freeze to 3.5.x or to switch to gnome, which i already did at my home fedora distro. At work still using kde because i used to it (since '95) and i did lot under qt. So Kubuntu should stay focused on the stability prior to some polish shell of the empty, and more sadly, unusable content.
Even Akademy needs to extend dead line because they will not have enough participants this year. Kde team should consider this or they will need to extend developments of 3.5.x serials, like MS did to the XP winning still over vista.
It is a bid sad, because qt 4.x is a really good, and really misused in kde 4.x.
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