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Re: Where is the desktop
by Ego on Friday 02/May/2008, @10:30
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| The dependence of some UIs (XP and to a lesser degree KDE) on "right clicks" is a major annoyance for me if I use my laptop's touchpad. So I hope KDE will not make extensive use of this feature. |
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Re: Where is the desktop
by Eric Laffoon on Friday 02/May/2008, @11:02
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Your touchpad doesn't have right and left buttons? Mine even emulates the wheel. The single button interface died with the single tasking pre OS X Mac. Without right clicks how do you have a context menu? Having recently added context menus to Kommander I experieced first hand the vastly improved potential to design a rich and responsive user interface with far less clutter. It's beyond absurd that KDE developers should trash a rich interface and emulate Xerox Parc because you don't like your touchpad. I was never fully comfortable with my touchpad so I got a small USB laptop mouse. Problem solved.
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Re: Where is the desktop
by Dread Knight on Friday 02/May/2008, @11:52
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It seems that most people get USB mouses for their laptops and some even use a "real pc keyboard" while at their home desk etc. =)
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Re: Where is the desktop
by Ego on Friday 02/May/2008, @12:12
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I prefer to use tap-to-click (instead of the left button), tap-and-drag and mouse wheel emulation. This allows me to stay with one finger on the pad all the time and is very convinient as long as I do not have to use the context menu. I do not propose to trash an existing UI (XP or KDE3), but, as you may have noticed, the evolving Plasma in it's current state does not make extensive use of this feature, and I hope this is a design decision. I really love my touchpad and I think it is even more ergonomic than the mouse.
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Re: Where is the desktop
by Janne on Monday 05/May/2008, @08:59
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"The single button interface died with the single tasking pre OS X Mac"
IIRC, one of the design-guidelines of OS X and related apps is that they should not rely on context-menus. After all, all macs still ship with single-button mouse. Yes, Mighty Mouse and trackpads can act as a multi-button mouse, but at their core they are still single-button devices.
"Without right clicks how do you have a context menu?"
How about thinking of ways to NOT rely on context-menus? Context-menus seem to be a trash-heap of functionality that the developers could not fit elsewhere. The app should be perfectly usable without any context-menus at all.
IMO, it might do some good to remove the right mouse-button from the developers mouse, that way he would be forced to think of alternative means of doing things, instead of relying on context-menus.
You mention that context-menus allow you to design interfaces with less clutter? Does that mean that the context-menu is the only way to access certain functionality in your app?
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Re: Where is the desktop
by xddule on Thursday 08/May/2008, @01:20
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Dude, typing is away faster than any mouse positioning, so the context menu is the essential for any constructor, engineer, doctor, programmer, and many more professions. This way i could choose what i need, in the right application i could even configure my context menu, which suits my needs. And i don't even bother to use mouse for it. Because there is meta-key which pops context menu, and intuitive is associated with the right mouse button, even if I'm left hander, because my meta key is on the right side of the keyboard. The mac users also have they 'apple' keys, even old amiga has the context menu button.
The plasma is killing environment for every usable desktop. The first poster has very right to point it.
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