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by dmiceman on Tuesday 06/May/2008, @09:36
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Releasing on Qt 4.4 is a great news. This is a great toolkit and now it become ever better.
But what the hell?! Toolkit intended to work on all current major computer platform have released with a demo video, encoded in “mov” which require proprietary and unavailable for many platforms browser plugin and player. Really, the name of toolkit is not a reason to use video format of the same name. |
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Re: mov?
by David Johnson on Tuesday 06/May/2008, @11:45
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It's the eternal disconnect between engineering and marketing. But at least Quicktime is more portable than Flash, the other common alternative.
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Re: mov?
by Anon on Tuesday 06/May/2008, @12:55
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Sorry but the .flv of the flash streams can be downloaded with some firefox extensions and viewer under VLC which is insanely portable. I'd rather have a flash applet than getting the unstable embedded video player to work btw. Embedded video players under linux sucks.
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Re: mov?
by Lee on Tuesday 06/May/2008, @15:51
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Please do not speak solely from your own experience when advocating decisions that affect many people. There isn't even such a thing as a functional Linux flash player. There's a binary plugin which happens to run on a few kinds of linux, and some open source attempts which barely run. MPEG4, DivX, some kinds of MOV, some kinds of AVI, Ogg Theora, a simple slideshow... all would be more portable.
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Re: mov?
by Jeff Strehlow on Tuesday 06/May/2008, @19:01
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I don't agree. I've tried Adobe flashplayer on several Linux distributions and it worked fine on every one of them. The only problem I've had was with a 64-bit install. Even with that I've got it working with a plugin (I believe it called nspluginwrapper in Debian) which makes 32-bit flashplayer work with 64-bit firefox.
And about a year ago I tried gnash and gave up on it because it wasn't stable enough. But I've recently tried the newest version and it's getting pretty decent; I'm using that now instead of flashplayer.
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Re: mov?
by fhd on Thursday 08/May/2008, @03:16
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Okay, so you made it run on ONE architecture. Not even on an architecture that is really very similar to x86 -> x86_64
And you still call it portable? Please look up the word.
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Re: mov?
by Jeff Strehlow on Thursday 08/May/2008, @08:49
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You're putting words in my mouth. The only thing I said was that there are 2 flash players to choose from in Linux.
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Re: mov?
by AC on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @01:24
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Please do not speak solely from your own experience when advocating decisions that affect many people. An Ogg Theora video wouldn't play out of the box on Windows and OSX machines.
SCNR
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Re: mov?
by Kevin Kofler on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @17:59
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You only have to install a plugin:
http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/ (DirectShow/WMP)
http://xiph.org/quicktime/ (QuickTime)
so it isn't any harder to get to work than Flash on those broken OSes. And good OSes support Theora out of the box. :-)
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Re: mov?
by Greg on Friday 09/May/2008, @11:15
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A mov file won't play out of the box on Windows either..
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Re: mov?
by David Johnson on Tuesday 06/May/2008, @17:48
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Flash does not work under unapproved systems. That includes FreeBSD, OpenSolaris, and many others. I have not had good luck extracting .flv out of streams. But I've never had a problem with Quicktime on any platform.
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Re: mov?
by T. J. Brumfield on Tuesday 06/May/2008, @18:58
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I never watch Quicktime movies with a proprietary player. Install a codec pack and then watch a .mov file in any player you want.
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Re: mov?
by JRT on Saturday 10/May/2008, @09:16
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Yes, that works OK for me.
HOWEVER, it only works on an x86 system!
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Re: mov?
by Sebastian on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @01:43
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++1
Can't see the movie on my machine either. ALL codecs installed... Opensuse10.3 btw. Agree with VLC/Flashvideos, AVI and others. Even RealVideo would have been better since it is at least officially supported on Linux platforms.
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Re: mov?
by Hannes Hauswedell on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @02:52
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Please everybody get your facts straight!
The video is h264+aac+mov. These formats are partly covered by patents, but they ARE documented. It is absolutely possible to play the video with free software (no extra binary codecs required), mplayer and xine should play it out-of-the-box.
While I would have preffered an entirely free codec-combination like ogg, this is way better than flash, real media or windows media. Even the download link is provided...
Btw. kmplayer plays the video fine inside konqueror, if your browser doesnt play embedded video, well...
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Re: mov?
by moltonel on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @03:15
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With all the video formats on the web, the problem is not the "video format" part (even though it is a strange twist of fate that FOSS people would ask for flash+flv over h264+aac+mov), it is the "on the web" part.
I have yet to see an embeded player (Free or proprietary, any platform) that's really nice to use and works all the time, whereas some desktop players are really good (and most will play any file you throw at them).
Conclusion ? Please please please allways provide a download link for the video. For sites like Youtube it's a business decision not to provide one, but for promotional material like this it doesn't make any sense. If the embeded player works fine for some people, that's cool. For all the others (technical problems, slow connection, repeated views, file sharing...), all we need is a download link and we'll be happy.
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Re: mov?
by Hannes Hauswedell on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @04:02
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You did realise that there is a download link on the bottom of the page?
;)
Like I said, I use kmplayer embedded in konqueror. I have no w32codecs installed and I've never encountered a video that doesnt play with the free software codecs mplayer has.
Then again, I did build mplayer with support for "patented-but-free" codecs.
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Re: mov?
by kt on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @03:24
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dmiceman,
offtopic question: are you the fusecram/fuseiso guy?
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