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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Matt Williams on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @09:07
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AFAIK, the latest Kubuntu and the upcoming openSUSE 11.0 are both using the KDE 4.0 branch since 4.1 isn't out yet. This allows them to provide a stable (if somewhat lacking in some features compared with 3.5) and shiny platform for users while giving them a clear upgrade path once 4.1 is released.
Up until now, the benefit has been that having the 4.0 branch in bugfixing mode has meant that whenever a bug is fixed in the branch, the unstable trunk (4.1) would benefit from it too. Otherwise, it would be quite likely that few bugs would have been fixed since January since all the devs would have been focussing on adding features for 4.1.
Also I think for users who's distros provided STABLE 4.0 packages and UNSTABLE 4.1 packages they would likely choose the stable packages, if not for the whole desktop then for things like the games, konqueror etc. without having to worry about the UNSTABLE label.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by mactalla on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @09:18
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I'm running 4.0 I like it more than 3.5, but I'm waiting rather impatiently for 4.1.anything binaries for Kubuntu. I'm getting more and more tempted to switch to OpenSUSE, but I'm really not wanting to reinstall/configure my system, so I'm just hoping things will improve.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Martin Fitzpatrick on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @10:36
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I'm running 4.0.3 only at the moment and my main desktop (aka only computer) - from the Kubuntu packages. Perfectly stable, a few oddities but habit works around them.
Saying that: the fact that it is so stable for me makes me agree that 4.0.5 might be unneccessary.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Jens Uhlenbrock on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @10:47
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When I first installed 4.1 over 4.0 some apps were not working. Later i found out that it was my fault. Should've deleted the .kde4 folder before updating. After I finally fixed that plasma was broken due to the tokamak changes. KDE 4.0 is running smoothly and stable on my system. To me it seems more of a hassle to have 4.1 running atm.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Jonathan Thomas on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:12
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The 4.0.x has been perfectly stable. It's not a scary thing to run at all. It would be scary, however, to run KDE 4.1 alpha. Due to the tagging being in the middle of the Plasma API refactoring Plasma is super buggy and crashy.
KDE 4.0.x, on the other hand, is stable and can be installed without compiling anything, unlike a more stable revision of trunk.
Lots of people are running KDE4; probably more than you think. It is very stable, and is the only stable release you can install without compiling crap.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by SAABeilin on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @13:03
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I do. I started using KDE4 as a full-session from the latest beta (and used some KDE4 apps withe a KDE3 full-session before). Yes, it is sometimes buggy, but mostly sometimes ;)
p.s. Help->About says it's 4.0.3 while dpkg -l says it's 4.0.4 ;) Kubuntu Hardy.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by IAnjo on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @13:44
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Yeap, I do too, on openSUSE, for my regular desktop. I also keep a svn tree of kde for developing, but normal use is 4.0.3 (now 4.0.4) from rpm's.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Artem S. Tashkinov on Thursday 08/May/2008, @02:12
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This is exactly my sentiment.
On my turn I keep waiting for KDE 3.5.10 which is still being actively developed and I'll probably try KDE 4.4 rc1 when it's out.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by NabLa on Thursday 08/May/2008, @02:16
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I use KDE4.0.x constantly and I haven't got much to complain about, apart from a few limitations on plasma (eg, to be able to delete files from the desktop containment, not just hide them) and a few annoying bugs that aren't stoppers I'm quite happy with it.
My major pain is not having more apps that use phonon (like amarok1, smplayer etc), as I've got two soundcards and phonon makes it so easy to manage. But that ain't a KDE fault either.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by chris on Thursday 08/May/2008, @22:28
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My last install of kubuntu (7.04, which upgraded to 7.10) with kde3 started getting buggy, so I searched all over trying to look for a stable and fast kde based OS ... then I saw 4.0.
I tried Arch, but they've got something broken with 64bit version and then I tried OpenSUSE, but something about the install taking 6 hours to run (downloading the net version) made me suspicious... then just trying to search for packages took over a minute to open.
So back to *buntu land because I don't have time to learn a new OS and the others had too steep of a learning curve (and if paying $59 for OpenSUSE, I expect better than 100kb/sec downloads from update servers).
I installed ubuntu 8.04 alternate then used aptitude to install kde4-desktop. I'm *very* happy with what I have. I'm tolerant of plasma being new and temporarily annoying (as well as the "hard coding" here and there), but I am looking forward to really learning this environment and growing with it.
FWIW, I learned more about aptitude with this recent exploration into KDE4 ... imho, aptitude is THE way to install packages ... apt-get and/or the update manager would allow an upgrade right now even though kdelibs5 v 4.0.4 is not in the repositories. Aptitude has something like 100 packages marked as being held back and are waiting on that dependency to run the update.
Now to learn more about how the containers work, how plasma works, and sizing... I need to figure out my issue of the plasma container being laptop screen size while the full desktop is the screen size of the attached monitor. (not trying dual head mode). I'll hack/tweak around it, but this seems to be a bad bug in the interim. I would also appreciate a private e-mail with some tutorial on how to create a "bug entry", too!
I envision creating my own "container" or widget that I can drop other widgets into (but without borders) as a taskbar replacement. Instead I want a task "blob" in a corner. I may even work out playing with the plasma container some more. I've got a lot to learn about KDE before I can decide how to go about that...
:)
In short: I've used KDE3 for over a year and I'm now going to use KDE4 full time.
Thanks
Chris
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by KDE 4.0 user on Friday 09/May/2008, @13:08
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I use KDE 4.0 and I like it. :)
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