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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by mactalla on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @09:18
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| I'm running 4.0 I like it more than 3.5, but I'm waiting rather impatiently for 4.1.anything binaries for Kubuntu. I'm getting more and more tempted to switch to OpenSUSE, but I'm really not wanting to reinstall/configure my system, so I'm just hoping things will improve. |
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by mimoune djouallah on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @09:21
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just do it my friend, you will never regret switching to OpenSuse
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by ETN on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @09:46
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I'm tempred to switch to OpenSUSE, too. And tried the LiveCD, unfortunately there are is a problem with the TouchPad. I filed a bug, and when/if it is fixed, I'll switch :-)
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Erunno on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @10:24
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The openSUSE Live-CD seems to have some problems with hardware detection which have been allegedly fixed (according to bugzilla). I'll file a couple of bug reports regarding my own hardware (macbook) once I find some time but there's a chance that the bugs are limited to the Live-CD. Nevertheless, such bugs are bad enough as I doubt that many people will install openSUSE if their hardware doesn't work in the live session.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by apokryphos on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:41
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Is this with the openSUSE 11.0 beta 2 live CD? What's the bug number?
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by ETN on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @12:43
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Yes, it is. The bug number is 387793
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OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by Gerry on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @10:27
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I have just updated to 4.0.4 (on 10.3) using one-click. I have the same problem that I had with 4.0.3, it starts up OK then crashes back to log-in screen. Not complaining, just wondered if anyone had any ideas
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by binner on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @10:39
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I guess without some more information and some own debugging from yourself nobody will be able to help you, best would be to join #opensuse-kde IRC channel.
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by Gerry on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:04
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That's a reasonable answer, was hoping for "oh yeah, need to tweak that" but at risk of sounding like a moron, if e.g., konqueror crashes it generates a back trace in which case even I can work out what to do, however this one goes goes silently back to log in without a hint. No idea where to go next. I even checked dmesg in hope rather than expectation.
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by binner on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:30
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Rather look at ~/.xsession-errors for a hint.
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by Gerry on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:53
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Thank you - acquired the file, will seek help
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by Kavalor on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:50
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What helped me once in a similar situation with KDE4 was to delete the KDE4 Desktopsettings.
I logged into my KDE3 adn deleted the folder /home/username/.kde4
When i treid to login into KDE4 again it rebuild the settings and everything worked again.
Dont know if it is the same in your case.
Of cource i neded to redo all personal configuration.
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by Gerry on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @12:44
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Thank you for suggestion - tried it, didn't make any difference :(
Logged it on bugs.kde.org
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by jos poortvliet on Thursday 08/May/2008, @00:43
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Most likely driver issues with the hardware acceleration used in KDE 4/Qt 4.4... I have the same with my laptop. It's annoying, but probably an X.org issue - good luck debugging that one.
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by dum on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:16
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I had the same problem after updating a month ago on opensuse. I'm don't know if that bug is still there because I'm running Kubuntu now.
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Re: OpenSUSE and 4.0.4
by augustm on Thursday 08/May/2008, @01:53
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I have often had this problem- I do a failsafe login, then start the sessions
with "startkde4".
Opensuse often pushes out inconsistent sets of files. Typically the session
stops with a symbol absent in an important library, or even a whole library
missing...
The opensuse build process/packaging seems to be a little fragile.
This is why you don't get the stacktrace, its not a crash as such.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Lee on Monday 12/May/2008, @05:10
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I regretted just trying it, after reading about their involvement with Novel and MS.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Ian Monroe on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @10:54
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I made the switch a couple weeks ago. Having the latest KDE 4.1 without building anything is just nice. (And my other computer runs Gentoo so it's not like I'm scared of building). OpenSuse is obviously for corporate environment, it's install process has lot's of control including giving the user the ability to install a pretty messed up system (which I did :P). Kubuntu's set of sane default apps makes more sense for the desktop user.
But the KDE 4.1 build service is a killer feature for me.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by apokryphos on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:44
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> OpenSuse is obviously for corporate environment, it's install process has lot's of control including giving the user the ability to install a pretty messed up system
This is more the result of being an early adopter of a graphical installation than of some corporate tendency. However, this has all been changed in openSUSE 11.0 too -- installation takes something like 18 minutes, requires about 6-8 clicks, and takes out a lot of questions from the user.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Ian Monroe on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @12:57
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This makes sense, the openSUSE 10.3 install reminded me of Linux installs circa 2001.
Good to hear things have improved!
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by apokryphos on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @15:06
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Yeah, definitely; just take a look at the beta2 screenshots of the installation for an example of the good looks: http://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots/openSUSE_11.0_Beta2
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by anon on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @15:12
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Opensuse 11 Beta 2 took me an amazing 10 minutes to install
It has a couple of bugs, but hey that is what a beta is for. It's not a stable release.
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Messed up system
by T. J. Brumfield on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @17:29
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I think the ideal installer will ask a user up front if they want all defaults, and then do just that (akin to *buntu installer) or ask if they want to get more specific.
I'm curious how you got a messed up system from the installer. What options did you select that gave you a messed up box?
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Re: Messed up system
by Ian Monroe on Thursday 08/May/2008, @07:22
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I selected the KDE desktop. But since I was wanting to install KDE 4.1, I deselected KDE and selected XFCE.
But xdm took me to FVWM not XFCE. I guess it's an insult to the FVWM folks that I consider their window manager to be so horrible as to define my system "messed up". :) Anyways it took a bit of wrestling but now my KDE 4.1 laptop is rockin.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Thursday 08/May/2008, @06:59
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OpenSuse 4.0 series is better because they ported a large portion of KDE 4.1 bugfixes to 4.0.
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