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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by Ian Monroe on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @10:54
I made the switch a couple weeks ago. Having the latest KDE 4.1 without building anything is just nice. (And my other computer runs Gentoo so it's not like I'm scared of building). OpenSuse is obviously for corporate environment, it's install process has lot's of control including giving the user the ability to install a pretty messed up system (which I did :P). Kubuntu's set of sane default apps makes more sense for the desktop user.

But the KDE 4.1 build service is a killer feature for me.
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Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
by apokryphos on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @11:44
> OpenSuse is obviously for corporate environment, it's install process has lot's of control including giving the user the ability to install a pretty messed up system

This is more the result of being an early adopter of a graphical installation than of some corporate tendency. However, this has all been changed in openSUSE 11.0 too -- installation takes something like 18 minutes, requires about 6-8 clicks, and takes out a lot of questions from the user.
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  • Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
    by Ian Monroe on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @12:57
    This makes sense, the openSUSE 10.3 install reminded me of Linux installs circa 2001.

    Good to hear things have improved!
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    • Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
      by apokryphos on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @15:06
      Yeah, definitely; just take a look at the beta2 screenshots of the installation for an example of the good looks: http://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots/openSUSE_11.0_Beta2
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  • Re: Who does still use the kde 4.0 series?
    by anon on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @15:12
    Opensuse 11 Beta 2 took me an amazing 10 minutes to install

    It has a couple of bugs, but hey that is what a beta is for. It's not a stable release.
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Messed up system
by T. J. Brumfield on Wednesday 07/May/2008, @17:29
I think the ideal installer will ask a user up front if they want all defaults, and then do just that (akin to *buntu installer) or ask if they want to get more specific.

I'm curious how you got a messed up system from the installer. What options did you select that gave you a messed up box?
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  • Re: Messed up system
    by Ian Monroe on Thursday 08/May/2008, @07:22
    I selected the KDE desktop. But since I was wanting to install KDE 4.1, I deselected KDE and selected XFCE.

    But xdm took me to FVWM not XFCE. I guess it's an insult to the FVWM folks that I consider their window manager to be so horrible as to define my system "messed up". :) Anyways it took a bit of wrestling but now my KDE 4.1 laptop is rockin.
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