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panel configuration
by SirDonnerbold on Monday 09/Jun/2008, @23:23
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the panel configuration tool is great, but you can't move applets inside the panel. and if you add the old menu to the panel you really want to put it leftmost. so thats basically why i'm not using kde4 despite the great efforts (looks like i'm very picky).
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Thanks!
by fish on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @00:14
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KDE 4.1 is shaping up reaaaally nicely. Big THANK YOU to all the devs! :)
I think there are only a few annoyances left: (I'm on beta 1)
- why can't we hide the plasma "bubble" in the upper right corner?
- the folder view applet has problems with unmounted network shares
- the shutdown dialog is still unnecessary complicated (too many clicks)
- widgets --> install new widgets --> download from internet --> nothing happens
- no right click menus for desktop icons and/or folder view
- why does dolphin create annoying hidden .directory files? krusader doesn't do that...
- some plasmoids in the panel look messy when making the panel really small
that's all for now. thanks everyone! :)
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KDE 4.1beta1
by Michael on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @01:09
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I tried KDE 4.0 and quickly switched back to KDE 3. It simply had too few features at that time to be worth switching. Yesterday I tried 4.1beta1. Muuuuch better, really. Thanks to all involved. But it took me some time to figure some things out (please note that I'm well aware of bugs.kde.org - I don't wanna complain here about specific bugs, just want to give a "meta-view" about my first experience with 4.1, what's good, what's bad and how I worked around things that don't work so well right now)
1) I created ~/Desktop4/Graphics, ~/Desktop4/Tools and so on and now use the new folder view applet to show those folders on the desktop in separate boxes. Way better than the cluttered KDE3 desktop. And much better than all those separate boxes behind icons in KDE 4.0. Some things I don't like about this solution: There is no way to get rid of the icons in ~/Desktop for good. So I had to delete them. Now, if I still sometimes want to switch back to KDE 3 there are no icons. But I can live with that. Another "glitch" is that I cannot right-click/create icons directly in the folder view. I need to go there in Dolphin. Now, when I create an Icon in Dolphin it has the extension ".desktop". I need to remove it manually to have a decent Icon label. Perhaps an option to hide extensions in the folder view and a menu entry to open the folder in Dolphin would already solve most of those problems easily.
2) Getting 3D graphics right is a bit tricky, because I couldn't find information on what is recommended. First thing is, you should set effects to "OpenGL" in the System Settings. Otherwise, you cannot expect all those great effects to work fast. While experimenting, sometimes KDE4 didnt start at all so I needed KDE3 to repair my system. I thought FGLRX would be better even if I'm sacrificing "openness". But RADEON driver seems to have much improved to what I'm used to in recent days. I'm not gaming so I cannot say anything about that. But for KDE 4 desktop I found RADEON to be that much better choice. Even if there were sometimes some artifacts on the screen. With FGLRX sometimes X used 40% cpu for minutes without apparent reason. And I havent been able to play movies properly without heavy flashing and distortions - I tried all combinations of VideoOverlay, OpenGLOverlay, TexturedVideo and what not. With radeon I didn't need a single option. Worked out of the box. So I'm sticking with RADEON and it seems to be that even general performance and CPU usage is better than with the proprietary driver.
3) Watch out: A square applet takes 100% of your CPU continuously. It took me some time to figure out, that the "Minimize All" applet made my PC so slow. So I removed it from the panel. I'm working around this right now by using Ctrl+F2 or Ctrl+F12. This is OK. I couldnt move the applet to it's usual spot anyway because you cannot move applets in the panel with KDE 4.1.
4) The only remaining problem I cannot work around right now is the fact, that the width of the places bar inside the open dialog isn't saved and is so large that I need to resize the panel bar everytime I use the open dialog. This is quite annoying because you obviously use the open dialog very often...
5) Finally you can get rid of the ugly black boxes everywhere by installing the "Glassified" plasma theme. It even downloads this theme directly from the dialog. Great!
6) After start-up I see the plasma desktop. I can click the K menu and so on. I can start apps like MPlayer from the "Recent documents" menu. But it takes extremly long until I can start KDE 4 applications like Dolphin (more than 1 minute) with seemingly no activity (no disk thrashing). I wonder what is it doing there? Well, I can live with the wait at the moment.
Otherwise, KDE4.1beta1 is just great. With radeon driver it all works fast even with 3d effects. I never had that much success with Compiz causing all sorts of problems with different apps and slowing my PC down. User interfaces looks polished and fresh. So, I think 4.1beta1 is finally "good enough" for me to use it regularly. Thanks again to all those involved for shipping a great product which will probably be even better if one day those remaining problems are resolved.
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Migrate from 3.5 -> 4.1
by ETN on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @01:15
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Hi, is there any application that helps mith the migration of settings like shortcuts, Bookmarks, Kontact data (mail, pop/imap/smtp conf., ...), Kwalletmanager data, ... ?
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Great
by Darkelve on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @01:38
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Thanks for the link to the article, I love the articles on PolishLinux.
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I will be able to change the position of applets?
by drz_0 on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @03:55
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I agree with the article in one point: the lack of a option to change the position of the applets in the taskbar.
Does anyone knows when this will be implemented?
Thanks.
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Kickoff
by Zsolt on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @05:19
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I like pretty much Kickoff, my only annoyance is the keyboard navigation. I can enter to a submenu with Ctrl+Right and go back with Ctrl+Left. Going up or down is not Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down resp.), just Up or Down resp.). This is not coherent and it is an obstruction for fast keyboard navigation.
Thanks.
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ksysguard applet?
by Bob on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @05:56
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Is there any way to get a system monitor in the KDE4 system tray? I use ksysguard to give me a small graph to tell me cpu, memory and network usage. I find it a good way to assure me that e.g. an application is processing something and that something is downloading.
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TwinView
by Elad Lahav on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @06:16
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I still can't get my TwinView setup to work correctly with KDE4.
At first, the two screens were recognised, but the desktops were super-imposed on top of each other on the primary screen. This has changed sometime before 4.1 Beta 1, and now I get a proper desktop on the primary screen, but the second monitor is completely ignored (verified by debug messages during plasma's startup).
I have been updating the relevant bug report (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153581), and at some point submitted a patch, but so far got no response from the developers.
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Gwenview
by none on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @08:51
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Big thanks to all the developers for their efforts! I especially like Marble for its OSM integration and can even imagine some game developers to use it for in-game maps instead of developing their own. Or x-based distro installers could offer it to select the local settings (suse does this, I believe).
Gwenview is coming along nicely, even with all the effects and eye candy it's still quite snappy and fast. Their are two things I would like to see: Gwenview using the Dolphin file-selection style (the little + and - sings) and an ability to export the list of filename of selected images. I already use it daily from within KDE3. (I still wait for Kaffeine and IRkick to be ported)
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KDE4 on FreeBSD
by David Johnson on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @10:41
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Anyone out there a FreeBSD user? We can use some help over at the FreeBSD/KDE project. We used to have some magical elves that would leave us wonderful working KDE ports under our doorsteps, but they have gone away. So we can use some more hands if you have them.
We can use help building and testing experimental ports, rooting out linuxisms in the code base, writing howtos, updating our webpage, etc. Join our mailing list at https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-freebsd. Thanks!
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nepomuksearch
by hias on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @14:39
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hi everyone
KDE4.1 is really good, I use it since several weeks and for me it already rocks. sure there are some missing features like the mac style menu bar, but I guess at least with 4.2 all the features will be back and until then there are many new ones to discover.
I have a question regarding the nepomuksearch like it was described in this blog s
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3426
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3443
Does this work for anyone? If yes, how can I enable it, or which module do I have to compile?
Thanks,
Hias
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resizing the panel
by yogo on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @16:36
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Hi
I installed the 4.devel Kubuntu packages on an oldish laptop already running 4.05. It's a great improvement on 4.0x, the desktop effects work well even on a 5 year old Nvidia 64M card. Kudos.
Two things that did puzzle me:
1. the position/size configuration tool for the panel - it's bit like the devs have said "right, you asked, so you can configure everything!". It's a bit like an ugly pagination tool in a word processor! Would it not be a simpler to have a simple settings dialogue for width, height and position. With position you would just need to have a 3x3 setting (Top, Bottom, Side) + (Left, Right, Centre) with one choice in each, rather then pixel perfect settings. Maybe that's just me ;)
2. When the panel is placed on the top of the screen, the search field is at the bottom of the menu. Is that able to be put at the top of the menu ?
Other than that, kudos to the developers. Well done, improving all the time.
Thanks.
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Symantec Logo?
by yutt on Tuesday 10/Jun/2008, @22:32
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I've always wondered why the Symantec logo was chosen to represent Plasma...
http://images.google.com/images?q=symantec%20logo
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