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Panel Autohide
by Ruairi on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @02:05
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Hi,
Thanks for the new release.. I am installing / testing it on my asus 900.. Is the panel autohide feature included.. I couldn't find anywhere to set it but was wondering if it was setable by editing the panel config file...
Thanks
Ruairi
ps runs great on the eee 900... looks really good also
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nVidia performance problems
by Matthew Smith on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @02:28
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My system has an old GeForce card which uses the legacy driver, and it doesn't support Compiz and the other X11 bling; is that affected by these issues also?
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Bug reports
by annma on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @02:39
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Please when you report crashes always join a valid backtrace as explained here:
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports
If you see a long list of
(no debugging symbols found)
please do not paste those lines and install the debug packages for your distribution.
This will help us greatly to quicker fix bugs. Thanks in advance and also thanks to all potential testers!
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Nvidia, performance, concise information
by Philipp on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @02:50
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I'm bringing this up because kwin's performance is still a serious issue for people with nvidia cards (those were considered a good choice for a linux desktop some time ago ;)
There are folks that say "well, i've nvidia geforce-xxx" and it's running great. But matter of factly plenty of people with fairly powerful nvidia cards get very very bad fps. So the problem clearly is that there's no concise source of information what one can do to achieve that.
Other than <a href="http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4.0-release-notes">this slightly outdated article on techbase</a> I at least couldn't find anything. And those options didn't work out for me, as for many other people I spoke to in forums, no matter what combination, setting or tweak was tried.
So how about doing an up to date, tested article that clearly gives all the possible tweaks and options to get a decent performance out of a nvidia card? I'd like to help, but I'm afraid I can't because as said I didn't discover any suitable solution to get more performance.
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KDE 4.1rc1 (4.0.98) Slackware 12.1
by fast_rizwaan on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @04:43
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Slackware 12.1 packages are available at:
http://kde4.rlworkman.net/packages/
And kudos to KDE team, wonderful progress, seems stable and snappy than all previous releases.
Aaron, thanks for your creative work :)
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KDE 4.1rc1 kwin compiz and intel 915+ chipsets
by fast_rizwaan on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @04:50
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All New intel chipsets works wonderfully with kwin-compiz, but video playback is not working with XV video driver when desktop-effects are enabled. the problem is with "intel" driver (is blacklisted by compiz-fusion).
The solution is that one should use "X11" vo in mplayer (mplayer -vo x11 movie.avi) and "XShm" in xine, so that we can use both kwin compiz and video playback.
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Problem with plasmoids
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @04:51
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Maybe it's just me, but I've installed KDE 4.1 RC1 on my Ubuntu machine yesterday and some plasmoids simply show a small circle (aprox. 10 pixels large) on the desktop and when righ clicked do not show any configuration dialog.
I've deleted my plasma configuration files, restarted KDE, but still have this.
The usual ones (most used in panel) as clocks, taskbar and such all work fine, but things as show desktop do not :-(
Besides that problem (that is big because I cannot show my desktop files) KDE 4.1 RC1 is rock solid. I only do not install it on my eeePC because the panel still lacks some usefull options that existed in KDE3 that helps using less space :-)
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About the themes
by Hobbes on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @04:52
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I wonder why the (color) themes are so dark. I am not sure what gives this feeling (taskbar only?), but the overall desktop seems dark. It is really different from KDE3 which uses many shiny colors. I think it is obvious, even from the screenshots here: http://www.kde.org/screenshots/.
What is the rationale behind this style? It sounds like a trend as Microsoft Windows Vista also has a dark default theme (I do not know about the other themes, if any exists ;-) ).
Maybe displaying dark colors requires less energy. (BTW, does anyone know?) But this is probably not the reason!
I tried to find more colorfull and brighter themes (on kde-look), but I did not succeed. I also tried to change the color of the taskbar, but I could not find the option. Is it possible to change that color and to tune the look of this taskbar?
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Vertical Panel not ok
by Yves on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @06:08
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On wxga resolutions it makes sense to use a vertical panel.
Unfortunately the task manager does not look well, since it does not put the text in vertical direction.
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press contact africa
by elveo on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @06:24
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mentions Uwe as contact.
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Trying it now
by Gerry on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @06:37
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It works. Visually it seems crisper.
Looking forward to getting Kontact back.
Thank you. Just have to learn how to use new features. :)
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Promising
by Paul Thomas on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @07:25
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This is my first attempt at Kde 4.
I must say I am impressed and I'm looking forward to installing it as my base desktop environment. I'm running debian and I'll probalby wait until they move it to testing.
As for the things that bug me, there are some :(, I will look at he bug reports and file my comments there.
Keep going. At last something new and exciting in the DE world.
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Kde 4.0.98
by markus on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @07:29
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I am trying to compile it but kdelibs 4.0.98 soon failed and complained about a "kdesupport" package.
When I asked on IRC I was told that kdesupport is provided by my distro (i have no distro, i run a "source distro" on my own....) and that it is in fact not "one" package but "multiple" packages (how informative....)
It would really be easier if the last known URL to packages like these would be detailed. After all
you guys use cmake which is supposed to be better than autoconf, so why not take advantage of
it and help the users too. At least with modular xorg you normally get exactly what is missing,
and although the complexity in modular xorg is annoying, I can at least tackle the problems
one after the other.
How difficult is it to say that, if you need qimageblitz, to just say so (as example)? Doesnt
even need to be an URL, i can google on my own, but in this case googling didnt really help nor
did the official wiki.
Or that one needs "akonadi"? I saw an email from april about this being in kdesupport.
Saying that one needs "kdesupport" when this is hard to GET or download, is kinda a
bad way.
Compiling something is normally not a huge,nsurmountable problem for me, more or less - after a little work things normally will compile, if the author didn't make a bad job in the first place.
I verified that between kdelibs 4.0.98 and 4.0.85 there must have been some change, because kdelibs-4.0.85 did not complain to me about an ominous "kdesupport" package and in fact finished creating its cmake-job (i didnt start to compile it because I dont see why i should compile 4.0.85 when 4.0.98 is out)
So, if one wants to build from source, this URL is not enough at all:
http://www.kde.org/info/4.0.98.php
But the name of the package "automoc in kdesupport" demands that users have some dependencies
WHICH ARE NOT DESCRIBED IN DETAIL to the user who wants to compile kde 4.0.98 from the
official tarballs!
So what is a user supposed to do here?
I was told to look at:
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Required_packages_from_your_distribution
But this also does not help AT ALL for several reasons. Where is kdesupport?
The first google result is:
websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/
Compiling Kde 3.5.9 is really easy compared to how often kde 4 changes those things,
I am getting irritated. I have no problem if things change quickly, but I am getting left
out if there are constant referrals to "use your distribution" instead of telling
people what package they need to use. Not everyone is a newbie, really ...
Thanks for anyone who can help me though. If anything, maybe this post can help to smoothen
out things for the next release, or for others who will have similar problems.
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Bindings
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @09:39
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Some days ago I saw that PHP-Qt bindings where integrated into KDE, so it occurred me, what bindings KDE currently support?
All bindings supported by kdelibs are also supported by plasma?
- I want to create some nice plasmoids with PHP :-)
Thanks in advance.
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KDE-Look bug (this is not a KDE bug!)
by Alejandro Nova on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @11:25
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I have an important bug to report that has nothing to do with KDE itself.
Each time I want to install a new Plasmoid using KHotNewStuff2 (from within KDE itself), KDE says that it installed successfully the Plasmoid, but I can't use it. Later, I went to http://www.kde-look.org, and what I found was: no Plasmoid was in a format usable by the KHotNewStuff installer. All Plasmoids were in a beautiful source-code-state, with instructions as useful as "cmake -DI_DONT_KNOW_WHAT_THE_HELL_IS_HAPPENING_HERE; make install", or something like that.
Please, provide in your KDE-Look website packages usable by KHotNewStuff2. I want to try all Plasmoids out there! ;)
Thanks for your amazing release.
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Thank you !
by BogDan Vatra on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @12:10
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I just want to say <B>I love you</B> !
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A few random things...
by JS on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @12:26
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-when moving applets around on the panel, sometimes the "Task Manager" takes up the entire space so you can't add anything else to the right of it
-it would be nice if the file transfer dialog would stop popping up in Konqueror ("Web Browsing" profile) when your opening links to pictures, text documents, etc
-Konqueror's search bar is gone. Is this avaliable as an extension?
-KGetHotNewStuff dosen't work when trying to download new plasmoids. Wallpapers/themes work however
-KGet's bittorrent plugin dosen't work. The status says "Stopped" and you can't do anything about it. Ktorrent works
-KDE people seem to have an obession with clocks but the digital clock placed on the panel looks so ugly. I miss the old one in KDE3 which looked like an LCD
Otherwise I love it. The KDM theme/Bootsplash looks great. I plan on switching to KDE 4.1 when FINAL is released.
Amazing job KDE devs!
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KDE 4.1 SVN
by Mark Hannessen on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @12:37
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I recently decided to try out kde4 SVN and i must say i am very much impressed with the kontact suite. everything works as a charm and the new look is very awesome looking.
it looks like the wait between 4.0 and 4.1 without the pim tools was well worth the wait!
thanks guys!!
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KDE4 is really fast
by JC on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @13:22
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I gave it a try, after all the negative comments I read for a while.
And I must say that KDE4 is really impressive and faster than my 3.5.9 version.
For sure more work needs to be done on plasma, screen saver, but overall after working on it today, I won't switch back to 3.5
I'm impatient to see what 4.2 and next will bring to my desktop. I have made my coworker(using XP) more jealous than ever today.
Great job and many thanks to the KDE team !!
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Thanks
by R. J. on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @14:48
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thanks for all the hard work everyone has done to bring us this release.
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damn ! feels like a new PC!
by opensuse11.0 on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @15:07
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I allways used SuSE, but 11.0 is so great, it's so much faster (especially yast-package manager) and kde 4.x feels also much more robust than kde3 in relation to opensuse 10.3.
I feel like i have a NEW PC ! really! updating packages with yast is so quickly now. i wonder, if my previous installation/updates of SuSE 10.x and earlier were buggy! but all the updates in the past just run fine.
Features, look and feel of kde4.x is already more than usable!
believe me, i tried kde4 since 4.0.0, though, you might still need some favorite
kde3 applications like k3b or amarok. After 4.0.3 i switched to daily/weekly development snapshots. Lately, updates are rare.
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Still far from usable for me
by vf on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @16:07
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It still has a way too many (mostly regression) bugs (see bugs.kde.org).
Still no kprinter and khotkeys. I know that people are working on that but only one person is not enough for these flagship components of KDE. Many of us are using KDE because of it (and not gnome or something else). It's really sad to see that skilled developers are working on useless eyecandy and ignoring this.
And btw., plasma looks promising but is pain to use. It is designed for touchscreens, and majority of us doesn't have a one. Why we are forced to use applet handles? I want to use applets as every other window. Imagine if every regular window had had this handle for move or resize actions, who would use kwin. Alt+LMB for move and Alt+RMB for resize (and so on) would be reasonable defaults.
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Gwenview
by JJ on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @16:26
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Gwenview seems to have gotten some speedups, its quite fast now. Theres only one major problem: It won't show files without dots. aka "img12345" "img67890"... Recent digikam (kde3 version) has the same problem. Is this just a wrong setting, intention or a bug? Dolphin and Konqueror work as expected.
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Welcome plasmoid
by T. J. Brumfield on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @18:58
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I noticed this in the 4.2 Feature Plan.
I'm curious what the plan for this is.
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Communication++
by CondorDes on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @21:46
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"While it is not yet up to the features that people are used to from KDE 3.5, KDE 4.1 provides a significant amount of improvements over KDE 4.0, ..."
I'm really glad to see this. Thanks for making it clear where KDE 4.1 stands.
For the record, I've been using SVN as my main desktop at home for a while now, and 4.1 rocks. Panels are now mostly-configurable, and folder view is quite nifty.
I'm looking forward to seeing what 4.2 brings.
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Order plasmoids and folderview
by jorge on Wednesday 16/Jul/2008, @23:58
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Most be on the heads of developers but it would be great to be able to order Plasmoids in the desktop. Especially Folderview, and to resize them according to a grid so my desktop don't becomes a mess. Like 3.11 (yes its a joke :-D)
Love this kde 4... thing !!!! Really cool to use!
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Cashew
by David on Thursday 17/Jul/2008, @09:00
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how can I disable the cashew? I don't have a touch screen.
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knetworkmanager plasmoid
by Yves on Thursday 17/Jul/2008, @10:37
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I could not find anything about the network-manager plasmoid :-(
How is the state of it?
knetworkmanager is the only KDE3-app which I need, and I would like to ditch it for a nice KDE4 version :-)
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About Kopete...
by neaghi on Thursday 17/Jul/2008, @22:20
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yes..a little offtopic...I install KDE4.1 from Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex alpha 2..and i'm very surprizing because see more changes one of them I can move icons in panel..good work guys..
anyway i want to know what's about kopete..I trying all KDE4.xx versions and I can't see buddy pictures, only a square empty and in RC1 none square only big ball green..don,t work webcam..don't work file transfers..all of them I try in Yahoo protocol..It's normal or I missing to install some packages ?
many tanks, all the best!
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Phonon
by Parminder Ramesh on Friday 18/Jul/2008, @01:10
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Hi, just wondering if that problem with phonon not showing the title's names (it only showed the numbers) was fixed. I recall someone having made a fix, but it being rejected because it broke ABI stability? Has this been resolved?
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incomplete features
by Deniz on Friday 18/Jul/2008, @01:34
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Yes there are more incomplete features on KDE4 and how can you complete to KDE4 on july,29.
I try to explain what are incomplete features;
1- no panel auto hide
2- there is no panel configuration( not flexible like kde 3.5)
3- where is the align vertically and horizontally for icons on desktop
4- there is no RDS widgets
5- there is no preview any window on panel
6- when run the konqueror and put any web site on address box and try to download flash plug in but still go to "macromedia web site", please change it.
last one is; I fell use like windows OS because there is no flexible and no changeable anything. I like KDE3 more than KDE4....
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Installation of downloaded plasmoid crashes plasma
by Planetzappa on Friday 18/Jul/2008, @03:07
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Yesterday i upgraded my beta2 to RC1 successfully and my most hated bug has been fixed, thanks folks! Also the overall experience with KDE4 is very nice, i'm using it as my default desktop since the betas.
This here is still unfixed: Trying to install a downloaded plasmoid crashes plasma. (Or, more exactly: Click "add plasmoid (it's 'Miniprogramm' in german, dunno the english term)" in the cashew on the top right, then choose "download from internet" at the bottom, then choose "Weather Plasmoid" and click OK.)
The good thing is that plasma nicely recovers from the crash and restarts itself (this was worse in earlier versions).
Is this a known issue? If not, i'll file a new bug soon, including backtrace debugging information.
I didn't try this with another plasmoid recently, so maybe it's an incompatibility of that specific plasmoid, so maybe i'll have to contact the plasmoid's maintainer?
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A suggestion on colour presets
by James C on Friday 18/Jul/2008, @03:09
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Firstly, great work on the release guys, I can't wait to try it out!
Secondly I had a idea I thought I might share, just there was a guy posting previously saying that there are a lot of dark themes/colour schemes.
What I was going to suggest is that KDE ship a set of schemes that by default includes all the primary (RBY) & secondary (GPO) colours and black to white too, with a light and dark version of every scheme. (For a total of ~16-24, correct me if i'm wrong, but as I understand colour schemes are just small bits of text/files so it's not gonna produce much bloat)
Crucially though, it will mean that whatever colour wallpaper you choose there is almost certanly gonna be a colour scheme that looks sweet on it/goes with it, because we'll have covered practically every option, with no need to check on the web etc.
I just thought this might be a nice way to get a bit extra 'built in' user friendly functionality pretty easliy and without much effort. It could be expanded to have 'neon' or 'pastel' etc etc classes too
Thoughts?
James C
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Panel Autohide
by Pablo on Friday 18/Jul/2008, @06:09
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Please implement this feature. I don't think that KDE 4.x
will be ready for use without it.
Personally I don't care about complex visual effects, etc (in fact, I would
like KDE to be as lightweighted as possible, while continuing to
be as fully functional as 3.5.x was).
But I think that panel-autohide is important for usability.
Also I would like to be able to hide the panel I would like to be able to temporally hide it when I don't need it, by clicking at the left/right end of the panel, like it used to be possible in kde 3.x
I've reported this problem in bug #158556 on 2008-02-28
and this feature is not implemented yet.
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shutdown and restart still not working
by skyxap on Friday 18/Jul/2008, @07:17
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When you unselect the 2 logout settings (confirm logout and offer shutdown options) should directly shutdown or restart without ask in the leave tab in kickoff, but still is not fixed... I need to logout and after find the shoutdown button and confirm one of the 2 actions... a lot of steps to only restart or disconnect the computer :-(
in other hand, i love how is progressing KDE4, RC 1 is very stable and now I can see HD videos with my old computer that wasn't possible using KDE 3.5.x (could be that I'm using optimized packages of Kubuntu and the official KDE3 is not optimized) :-O
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is getting very good, but still has some bugs
by Emanuell on Saturday 19/Jul/2008, @08:25
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when I get the kopete size of the panel changes
are doing an optimal job, can hardly wait for the following versions
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Looking good!
by jackflash on Saturday 19/Jul/2008, @09:45
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I've been using the 4.1 beta for a couple of weeks, and am very happy / impressed with it so far. Still having some graphical glitches (bottom panels disappears a lot, which is pretty annoying) but overall I'm definitely liking it more than Gnome on my OpenSUSE 11 install. After making a few font and other cosmetic changes, it's so pretty! Now for Amarok to come out ...
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NVIDIA ...
by Artem S. Tashkinov on Saturday 19/Jul/2008, @13:16
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Unfortunately KDE 4.1 is almost unusable with NVIDIA 8800 GPU with NVIDIA binary driver (nv driver is unusabe either). Everything works so slow - I just cannot bear it.
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Menubar on top
by marce on Saturday 26/Jul/2008, @05:39
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Will the menubar on top be available on 4.1?
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