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better than others(vista/osx)
by zvonsully on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @07:58
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let's hack on it. I miss only panel hidding from kde3X, but it is planned for 4.2
Linux is VISUALY better than VISTA or OSX.
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Congrats!
by Joergen Ramskov on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @07:58
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Congrats and thanks to everyone who helped make this release!
Already looking forward to KDE 4.2. The improvements in 4.1 are impressive, but I think with 4.2, KDE4 will really start to shine :)
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Congratulations
by Jens Uhlenbrock on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @07:59
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And Thank You so much. Been using the development versions for a while now and it's already amazing. Can't wait for 4.2!
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Thank you!
by Sepp on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:00
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A big thank you to all the people involved, especially the developers!
I use 4.1 since beta2 and really really like it. Please don't listen to all the whiners - you do a great job.
KDE rocks!
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Slick Announcement page
by Jane on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:03
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I'd like to thank the folks who put together these announcements pages too. This one is particulary well done I thought.
Congrats all guys and gals!
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Congratulations :)
by Kais Hassan on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:06
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Many thanks for the great work, I used KDE 4.1 RC and I liked it, I am sure I will love 4.1.x even more.
I have a request for KDE veterans, for new Linux/KDE in general we have little knowledge about KDE history and progress over the years. I would like to see a paper with screenshots showing the progress of KDE from version 1 beta to the amazing KDE4 platform. I think KDE project started around 10 years ago, at that time Win98 was out. So it will be great to see how things progressed.
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Thank you !
by BogDan on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:08
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II just want to say I love you !!!
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Very nice
by adrian on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:24
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Been playing around with kde4.1 since beta and i must say it's one smooth experience now.
Sounds silly but KPatience really got me ;-)
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Way to Go KDE! No thanks for RedHat sellouts
by Bill on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:49
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The screenshots look wonderful. Just imagine how good KDE would be if it had the support of RedHat... It's sad that these supposedly FOSS-friendly corporation is choosing to develop an inferior product (GTK/GNOME) simply so that unscrupulous ISVs can use their LGPL'ed framework without sharing anything back. Any developer who cares about software freedom should work on KDE because it is protected from proprietary leeches, but alas few are aware of this subtle point. The KDE community should really raise awareness about this more in order to attract FOSS-conscious developers.
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User since v1.1
by Karim on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:51
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Amazing team making an amazing product! I have been exclusively using kde since 1.1. My appreciation goes to the entire team of software developers, graphic designers, translators etc. etc. and also the user feedback. I have seen alot of creative ideas bouncing around from every-day users, and they are sometimes impressively ingenious!
Congrats to all.
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Changelog since -RC?
by Adrian Baugh on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @08:51
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I've been using 4.1-RC since its release and have read the release notes etc. but does anyone have a list of key bugfixes between -RC and -final?
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Cheers! ☺
by Pocho de la Polla on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @09:05
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congratulations!!
pd. don't forget the panel autohiding!
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Well done! ( New Webpages! )
by Tom on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @09:20
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I especially like the new "Stable Version" page ( Download section on the kde.org )
The old sucked really bad. It only mentioned KDE4 ( even as rock solid tested release .. WTF? )
The new explains that KDE4 is for early adoptors and that 3.5 is still around and maintained! That is the way better aproach. ( Do that again for 5.0 ;) )
Very well done! Congrats&Thank you!
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Dedication
by Martin on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @09:36
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Good call on the dedication!
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Thank you
by kdeuser on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @09:37
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for your hard work.
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Migrate
by Mig83 on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @09:39
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A question:
is there an application that helps with the migration of some data as shortcuts, bookmarks, mails, contacts,... ?
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Finally comes
by rockmen1 on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @09:41
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Congratulation KDE team!!!
Thanks you all for great work!!!
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automoc4
by tomas on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @09:50
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Anyone able to help me with this problem?
"CMake Error: Did not find automoc4 (part of kdesupport)."
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 does not mention it.
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I have a Dream
by Raul on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @10:00
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I'm using opensuse's KDE 4.1 RC packages since last week and they are great. Looking into the future, this is what I would like to see for 4.2 (disclaimer: I know some of this items are already in the road map, but I'm not sure about all of them, maybe some developer can tell me which ones are planed?)
-An Akonadi-based KDE-PIM
-A Decibel based Kopete
-Being able to rename a picture in gwenview by just hitting F2
-Digikam with kick ass nepomuk integration
-Amarok 2
-Koffice 2
-A kDE 4 version of Kaffeine
-A completely functional folder view containment
-Google widgets in plasma
-Windows Vista widgets in plasma
-More work in the ZUI
-Some kind of animation when moving widgets in the taskbar
-Autohide for the taskbar
-Correction of the rendering problems in the tray icons
-Something new and exciting ;)
And that's it :) Congratulations to all KDE developers for this great release, keep up the good work.
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Awesome work!
by Jeffery on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @10:02
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I've been using KDE4 on and off since 4.0a, and the rate at which it is improving up is nothing short of astounding. I knew had potential back when it barely worked, and it's really showing that potential now. Way to go, KDE devs!
Release day being my birthday, I'll count it as a present - thanks :D
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KDE4.1
by TomiF on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @10:05
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What a great work!!!!!!!
Congratulations to all responsible guys !!!
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Alt+F2
by Markus Wichser on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @10:09
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When I try to run a command and press ALT+F2, the dialog appears minimized on the taskbar and there is no way I can maximize/move/resize it in order to see it. This started to happen as soon as I activated the composite option in xorg.conf.
opensuse factory packages / intel graphic card.
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Thanks from me too...
by Yogesh M on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @10:14
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Thanks to all the kde developers out there; many many congratulations on this release. I'm using 4.1 rc and already loving it... looking forward to 4.1 final...
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Very cool
by Alex Medina on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @10:40
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KDE 4.1 really rocks.. thanks to all developers who made this possible :D
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Another thanks from a KDE4 user!
by thothonegan on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @10:46
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Thanks a lot for 4.1! Been running the dev version for a while; its a giant improvement from 4.0 and will only continue to get better!
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A Big Thank You
by Lucianolev on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @11:02
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I'm just here to say: THANK YOU!
KDE 4.1 is a great release, a big thank you for every person which makes this possible.
Keep on rocking :)
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TODO items on 4.1_Feature_Plan page
by vf on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @11:06
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How come that there are still TODO and IN PROGRESS items on
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Feature_Plan
Why don't you move them to 4.2 page or remove completely?
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Congratulations... But dolphin still crash
by Christophe Durandeau on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @11:06
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Congratulations to all the contributers. KDE4 is really full of inovations, and a great desktop.
I'm using 4.1 since RC1 and every day it's a pleasure.
Only one thing that is not fixed in stable version. In dolphin, when cursor is moved over an avi file, dolphin still crash !!! Any solution to fix the porblem ?
Thanks.
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Great
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @11:06
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Still have some problems here and there, but the pace of improvements in KDE4 series is incredible. If it keeps this way 4.2 will surpass 3.5 series and 4.3 will simply be the turn point of free desktop.
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Donating
by Oscar on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @11:08
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As promised I'll add a little money that I can spare to KDE. Thanks for a great release (that I'll have to check out soon).
I'll give 10€. Anyone care to match it?
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Thank you!
by killer1987 on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @11:30
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thank you very much guys! hope this time people will appreciate the work done by the KDE team! keep it up this way!
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Astonishing progress since 4.x!
by David on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @11:52
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Really. A lot of rough edges have disappeared and a lot of new features have been implemented!
Congratulations!!
And
Thank You!!
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Congrats
by Sascha Peilcke on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @12:00
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Awesome release, keep on rockin' in the free world!
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Intel 965GM - X3xxx
by Me on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @12:05
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What happens with this graphic card?
I can't manage to make the kwin effects work although direct rendering is fine (glxgears worls perfect). Always that black screen. In the kde bug page is tagged as resolved, but, i'm know i'm not the only with this problem.
That graphic card is also tagged as "buggy" in the compiz page.
I bought this card because the 3D drivers were open, and now this :-(
Where is the bug?
About 4.1.
For me is nearly perfect. I miss k3b, amarok, kmldonkey and kaffeine kde4 versions, and, perhaps the most important: something to control the laptop power (powerdevil is perfect, simple and exactly what i need).
By the way, i'll spend a few minutes to write 5-6 bugs or requests, once per each program. I've realized that when a software is configured, the menubar (archive, edit...) is not needed. This way, with CTRL+M, i hide that menu. This works with dolphin, konqueror, genview, kmix, kget, konsole.. but not with others: akregator, juk, kmail... as part of KDE, i think that that option would be present.
Bye!
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Artwork
by Tobias on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @12:12
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Could anybody tell me where one can get all these promotion images used in this announcement? http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/
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Adopt KDE3 apps?
by Iuri Fiedoruk on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @12:37
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There are a LOT of KDE3 apps that are not being ported or never will.
Here is one idea, what about if we set up a page with some usefull apps from KDE3 that are not actively developed, with a voting system, so anyone can look and see most wanted apps, and maybe adopt them to port to KDE4?
I can create the site, if anyone is interested.
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Great job!!
by Trond on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @12:52
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I've been running kde4 from svn trunk for a while, and it just keeps getting better and better. This release truly marks kde's position as the leading desktop out there!
A big round of applause to everybody involved and thank you for making my desktop that much better :-)
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Awesome
by Edney Matias on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @13:24
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Simple awesome!
Beautiful, gorgeous!
Congrats to all involved.
Thank you guys!
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KDE4 rocks!
by Diego Viola on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @13:48
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Thanks for your hard work KDE developers, you rock our worlds =D
KDE4 is better than ever, it's beautiful, functional, and it rocks... IT'S THE BEST DE EVER =D
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No fair
by Debian User on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @14:03
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Hello,
Redhat was using Gnome because initially it was not possible to distribute KDE binaries due to the license conflict of Qt. Others like Mandrake and Suse cared a lot less about the license issues, but e.g. Debian did too, purely for legal reasons.
At the time KDE was getting an acceptable license, Gnome already was sufficiently developed and indeed always has had and will have distinct differences to KDE.
Not the least of it being that GTK 2.0 has binary compatibility from 2.0 release until today, with no breakage allowed ever. Only now discussion of GTK 3.0 is under way which would do that, but it's not yet accepted. That is a feature that ISVs appreciate very much so, very old binaries can still run unchanged on modern GTK.
On the other side, Qt has since 2.0 changed binary compatability several times. Due to being a C++ library, the ABI has changed even in minor releases, and has been affected when e.g. the C++ ABI in gcc was changed. That's nothing I would blaim Trolltech about, for Free Software it's OK to recompile. But these major migrations have caused the constant need to keep your applications up to date.
I am willing to bet that a LGPL licensed Qt would not be more popular with Redhat or ISVs, and it would be lacking binary ABI stability. Where it's not a matter of trivial recompile (e.g. Qt3->Qt4 needs at least build changes), Qt is out of the question for some things.
So, what's good about Gnome? It's a nice ABI stable platform that Redhat, Ubuntu, etc. can use. And good about KDE is that it's a rapidly developed API stable platform. In fact, the mere existence of Gnome takes away the pain from KDE to comply with needs that Gnome fulfils.
Yours,
Kay
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Other Platforms?
by Hannes Hauswedell on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @17:39
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I have been compiling and recompiling the latest versions of KDE4 on my FreeBSD system the last week(s) and I must say that the desktop overall is really great.
Unfortunately FreeBSD-support is really lacking behind.
I somehow have the feeling that there is more people working on KDE for Windows than on KDE for BSD, which is a rather sad thing for a free Desktop.
In general am I looking very forward to KDE4 as a Desktop though and think that many groundbreaking work in the area of Desktop computing has been achieved.
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downloading
by Lostshell on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @17:58
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Thanks, i test it the svn version some weeks ago, and it was great
downloading...
anyone have slackbuilds 0_0?
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More than I anticipated
by Terry Brown on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @19:06
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Its not often in this day and age that you get what you expect from any type of consumer good, its even less often that you get more than you expect.
I must say that today is one of those rare occasions. I have been eagerly anticipating the arrival of KDE 4.1 since 4.0 was released.
I cannot begin to express a heartfelt thanks to each and everyone who had a hand in this latest development.
Truly a paramount effort, its all the little touches that show the true quality.
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ETA for OS X
by AndyC on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @19:30
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Anyone have an idea how long the KDE4 for OS X will take to be released? I'm very keen to replace some of my apps with the KDE4 equivalents.
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thanks for the great work, just a small issue
by Jean Pierre on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @19:41
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I want to thank all the kde community for all the efforts to make this release rock!
I was trying the newly introduced add panel functionality and have accidentally removed the main panel. Does anyone know how to restore it?
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Amazing Work!
by Nassos Kourentas on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @23:58
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I would also like to express my deepest gratitude towards all involved in creating such an amazing desktop experience that leads us into a new era of desktop computing!
Simply amazing work!
Congratulations to all of you!
Nassos
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Wonderful!
by Heja AIK on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @00:29
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Thank you very much!
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Windows?
by Anon on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @02:04
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I was expecting KDE4 to be stable on Windows with 4.1 - has that changed? Why is the windows.kde.org so minimalist?
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Already switched to 4.1 completely
by Junaid on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @02:10
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Archlinux provided 4.1 packages in their main repos a day before the official release. 4.1 is stable enough for me that i've completely switched to it already.
4.1's elegance tempts me to join in as a dev. :)
A HUGE THANKYOU to the devs, testers, artists and all kinds of contributors !!
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KDE 4.1 rocks despite some issues
by Andy on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @05:18
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First thanks for KDE team for their efforts.
But here I'm faced with some problems:
- Sometimes I cannot copy/paste from a windows session open through krdc (rdp).
- Okular won't print a PDF file to my printer
- The telnet://host bookmark doesn't work anymore in konsole. The ssh bookmark (ssh://user@host) is working fine. Konsole keeps complaining about "I do not know how to handle the protocol "telnet".
Any ideas about those problems?
Thanks in advance
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Step in Debian?
by Sepp on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @06:16
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I use the 4.1 packages from Debian experimental and I wanted to try out Step, but I can't find it.
kdeedu is version 4.1, but the package release doesn't mention Step at all:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kdeedu/news/20080727T224745Z.html
Does anyone know what's up with it?
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Good job!
by Crazy Henaway on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @06:47
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I'll admit it ... I found the 4.0 release unusable for daily computing. Looks like you've turned it around and really delivered a 4.1 that's ready for the world.
I've only been able to use it for a couple of hours so far, but it's been stable, looks great, and no matter what some folks say, I REALLY like the folder views on the desktop! Especially since you can filter the contents. That's just sweet.
This one just might win me back from Gnome ... which I used to hate, but found it a better option than the 4.0 release last year.
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End User FAQ is busted
by Spud on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @08:09
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Hia.
Clicking on the KDE4 End User FAQ currently doesn't work. It gives an "Account suspended" message from the hosting supplier. I presume that it has exceeded its bandwidth allocation or something like that?
Anyway, just thought I'd let you know in case you hadn't noticed yet.
Cheers!
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this is the most amazing desktop
by pete on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @08:30
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i have ever been using and way ahead of all the others . its shiny , beautiful , fast and custumizable the way i can lve with it . it's simple the future we see and can use now . there are some hicks here and there , but in general it's simple awewsome . i had some hard words in the past for the early releases , and i wouldn't change the words today , they were simply emotional . i am now in the state of paying back . me not being a developer paypal will be my friend .
a big thx go out to all who made that big thing possible !!
cheerz pete :-)
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KDE-edu is Extraordinary Stuff !!
by Junaid on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @09:13
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Well I must confess that KDE-Edu offers a set of applications that is simply UNMATCHABLE for any project !!
In my opinion, these applications alone warrant KDE's adoption in schools. Great stuff guys !!
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Nvidia performance fixed soon?
by Robin on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @12:58
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See this post by AaronP from Nvidia:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1728071&postcount=7
Quote:
"I posted about it somewhere, but I can't find the post now. Anyway, a number of improvements to the RENDER acceleration on GeForce 8 and higher GPUs are being developed for the 177.* and 180.* driver series. These include support for the various repeat modes, transforms, and convolution filters, as well as acceleration for trapezoid rendering. In addition, resizing windows in KDE 4 hits a number of particularly slow fallbacks that we're working to avoid. The official release notes will mention these improvements when they're ready for prime-time."
Sounds great!
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My faith in the devs is confirmed
by Daniel on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @16:08
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There's nothing like a clean, visionary rewrite of the foundation to keep you busy and out of sight for a while, to make an initial release people don't get unless they understand what's happening under the hood, and then to dazzle them with all the payoff at the end. Go devs! Your attention to infrastructure for KDE4 is getting its due at last.
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Mac style menubar
by Srikanth Agaram on Wednesday 30/Jul/2008, @23:41
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I am currently running KDE 3 and have been looking forward to a more fully featured KDE 4. The one feature I absolutely must have is the ability to use a mac style menubar on top (outside the app window). There was an option to do this in KDE 3, is there any way to do this in KDE 4.1?
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stiffy for kde dragon
by kde dragon makes me stiff on Thursday 31/Jul/2008, @08:30
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i'm sexually attracted to the KDE dragon
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NVIDIA vs. XGL
by Sebastian on Thursday 31/Jul/2008, @12:34
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There is one thing that KDE's techbase misses in order to support better NVIDIA effects: XGL
I read it months ago on the dot, but using XGL on OpenSuse 10.3 with KDE 4.0.x I could not enable desktop effects, though most 2d rendering problems vanished.
Right now I tried XGL and it works much better (though not optimal):
Measured Frames per 5 seconds:
Xorg, effects activated: 280
Xorg, effects deactivated: 21000
Xgl, effects activated: 12000 (Though the keyboard is a little choppy)
Using OpenSuse 11.0, NVIDIA 8400 GT, latest NVIDIA driver. The hibnts on techbase did not work at all.
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Still not ready, for me
by Anonymous on Sunday 03/Aug/2008, @14:08
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Yes, 4.1 has come on a long way from 4.0. But there's still too many features missing that were in 3.x, too many things that aren't obvious. Just a few examples:
How do I move widgets in a panel? If it's possible, it's not at all obvious.
How do I change the colour of the panels? That black just draws the eye too much from the windows where I'm actually working.
Why can't I change the layout in knode? I could in 3.x.
Plus, fonts seem fundamentally broken - I change the size so that one application looks right, and another has giant or tiny fonts. And I was using it for about 10 minutes when the system tray disappeared - no amount of removing & re-adding it would make it come back.
Ah well, back to 3.5 for now...
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It still sucks dead hamsters through a garden hose
by Herbert Eisenbeiß on Friday 15/Aug/2008, @03:12
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KDE 4.1 SUCKS!!! It still sucks dead hamsters through a garden hose!
Why? Because you, Sir, have stopped listening to your community and its needs and just code along what you think is cool, because you stopped giving us the opportunity to actually configure many things!
What sucks?
For example this:
- folderview or the plasmoids at all. Yes, might be a NVIDIA driver problem with that lousy performance, but: it was known before, why haven't you implemented it another way? Why did you take our old desktop away??? GIVE US OUR OLD DESKTOP BACK!!!
- knode. This thing is completely broken in 4.1.0. Something, that shouldn't have slipped through beta testing. All postings are now without any charset at all, it doesn't honor this anymore, all postings are made without any word wrap at all - what in Jesus H. Fucking christs name has gone wrong there???
- the panel. Yes, finally we can move it (ooooh), and also make new plasmoids on it (ahhh), but: why can I still not change its color? Where are all the little helpers gone we had in 3.5.9, like quick folders and such? In few words: it STINKS! Give us our old, beloved kicker back!!!
- The kickoff style menue. What in Jesus Fucking Christs name have you been thinking while implementing this stinker? It's size is fixed, it doesn't show us all entries at all, moving between the levels takes time, because animated, in one word: it is rotten, it stinks, it's rubbish! And you keep us telling this stinker gives us better usability? Holy shit! I cannot believe it! At least we can finally turn on the old menu style back now again!!!
- Akregator. It has serious bugs in positioning the tool bars, it isn't taking archiving options anymore, meaning it's somewhat broken, too!
- Mounting of NTFS-Volumes through ntfs-3g in Dolphin/Konqueror is still not working. WHY NOT? This is something that even GNOME is able to do for quite some time now without any problems AT ALL!
- Responsiveness. KDE 4.1 still feels slow and sluggish on many occasions. Why?
Might be, that KDE 4.1 has all the nice shiney technolgy, buzz and such under the hood, but what is it worth to us when the car build upon this engine stutters and is still making errors regularly?
For short: start listening to your community again and act upon it wisely, otherwise KDE is doomed to further run down the hill!!! At the moment it JUST SUCKS!!! It is what Vista is for Windows, all bling and looking nicely, but no one really wants to use it, because it SUCKS, because it's limiting its users and its broken.
At the moment I am going to stick with XFCE, because even development might be a little bit slower than with KDE, this project doesn't nearly stink as much and the main developer cares deeply about his community!!!
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Posted by Sebastian Kuegler on Tuesday 29/Jul/2008, @07:23
