Poll: What KDE Feature Do You Most Want?

Polls are an oft-requested feature of the dot. KDE.com has risen to the challenge with its latest user poll: "What Should Be the Highest Priority of KDE Developers Leading Up to KDE 2.2?". I just installed Linux Mandrake 7.2 (until my SuSE package arrives), and after upgrading to KDE 2.1.1, I feel that a KDE port of the configuration utilities could bring a huge amount of polish to this distribution. A KDE interface to Linuxconf might be a good start. Others would however prefer a KDE installer, and some simply think that KDE should be faster and/or less of a memory hog. Here's your chance to cast a vote and voice an opinion.

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by Richard Lynch (not verified)

IMAP support for KMAIL.

by Con Kolivas (not verified)

It's in for 2.2, lucky you!

by characterZer0 (not verified)

Features and toys and programs are nice, but what good is it if they don't work? If it doesn't work correctly at least 99% of the time, don't bother. I'd much rather be told I can't do something and find a replacement, than be told I can and have it not work. (This goes for you too Microsoft).

BTW: IMAP4 support in Kmail

konqueror needs to remember my passwords and login data, I can't :)

And we need a quicken clone with similar features and importing of quicken files

Add a cold beer, and I'll be happy ;)

"konqueror needs to remember my passwords and login data, I can't :)"

Konqueror will begin helping your memory starting with 2.2. I'm using a CVS Konqueror right now and it already has this feature.

"we need a quicken clone with similar features and importing of quicken files"

Check out Kapital by theKompany (www.thekompany.com). It has exactly what you want. The only problem is, it's not free. But the money goes to a good company. TheKompany has been helping out a lot with KDE and giving most of their stuff away for free, but unless people buy the products that they do sell, they won't be able to stay in business. So buy Kapital and support theKompany and KDE!

"Konqueror will begin helping your memory starting with 2.2. I'm using a CVS Konqueror right now and it already has this feature."

Is it stable?

I paid for quicken, if Kapital will replace it I'll write the check with a smile.

Thanks for the info, I'll look into these

Konqueror from KDE CVS or daily code snapshots is not as stable as the 2.1.1 release, but it is useable. It is a development version, of course, so not everything works perfectly. I recommend you wait for KDE 2.2 unless you _really_ need this feature.

konqueror needs to remember my passwords and login data, I can't :)

And we need a quicken clone with similar features and importing of quicken files

Add a cold beer, and I'll be happy ;)

by Joseph Nicholson (not verified)

The Kompany-

http://www.thekompany.com

has kapital available now. I tried the download of the 1st beta but it crashed horribly on both my systems :(. It's not Free Software (in the speech and beer sense- both) but it may be something worth looking into.

The Kompany has been doing a lot of work on Open Source projects otherwise.

Thanks, I'll check it out

by Joseph Nicholson (not verified)

I voted for an Installer albeit perhaps blindly. Is this an installer for KDE itself (updates, etc?) or for other and/or all software packages?

It would be way cool for those from the Mac and Windoze world to have a ''one click'' installer for everything from .tar, .tgz, .deb and .rpm packages. Of course, having used exclusively Linux for 2 1/2 years now I prefer to compile my own apps from the shell whenever I can :).

The importance of this of course would be for the influx of refugees from the GUI-based operating systems ... a click that unzips the file and tells you what's going on ... an interactive question thingie like:

Config ready. Proceed? [Y/n]

(Neat output to screen)

Make ready. Proceed? [Y/n]

(User watches in wonder as it it does it's thing).

Make Install ready. Proceed? [Y/n]

Please give root password:

(More output and ... )

Done! Menu item installed in Internet--> gaim

Click on there or type gaim on the commandline to start program. Type gaim & if you'd prefer to return control of the shell to you ...

And a function similar to apt_get that would perhaps prompt you for the disk or take you to a site to get an unsatisfied dependency?

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Of course this is a flight of fancy that would have a lot of purists flame me but what's wrong with choices?

Lastly, I'd like to see Netscape plugins work "out of the box" including already installed ones like rpnp.so, flash, etc. (come to think of it I think I watched kimble.org in Konqueror on my Mandrake 8.0 laptop but I'll have to check that. Ditto for JavaScript, etc.

Nice work KDE team all around. Thank you! You've given 8 of my close friends a reason to switch or even start out on computers with Linux!

by Christian A Str... (not verified)

Hehe.. you already have a program that does this (the compile stuff)... Take a look at kconfigure ;)
http://kconfigure.sourceforge.net/

by Steve Hunt (not verified)

Yes, there is the KDE Installer Project, but it's still vaporware. It's made mostly by Nick Betcher. I help out some too. Here's the site: "http://kdeinstaller.rox0rs.net".

by Malcolm Agnew (not verified)

1) Konquerer - especially printing:

a) I never know for sure if konquerer will print
a page or not until I walk downstairs and look
at the HP Postscript printer. Usually it does
but never if I am looking at a *.pdf file.

b) At least 1 out of 3 Java applets seem to
break konqueror.

c) Sessions - like in konsole - for that neat
terminal emulator window.

2) A parameter which if on says : if in doubt
use emacs/xemacs key bindings rather than Windoze bindings.
i.e. as I am writing this:
Cntr-E (good, I get end of line)
Cntr-A (bad, it selects the whole text)
Cntrl-D (oops where am I now)

3)
Chose another name for Advanced Editor - xemacs
IS the advanced editor.

4) KMail
A much higher expectation of success if I open
an atachment sent me by a Windoze user.

5) Lots more of course but each new version of
KDE2 suprises me with the rapidity of how my
wish list shrinks?

For me KDE2, has won the catch up on Windoze
except for the quality of fonts but one can hardly blaim KDE for that.

Printing is being improved in all of KDE for 2.2. Konqueror's printing capabilities in particular are being improved.

About key bindings: the key bindings module in KControl allows you to change the default key bindings in all of KDE at once. You can't make 2-key shortcuts like C-x C-c but you can make a lot of key bindings more Emacs-like.

In KDE 2.2 there will be a new editor called Kate. Hopefully it will replace the "Advanced Editor."

by Malcolm Agnew (not verified)

1) Konquerer - especially printing:

a) I never know for sure if konquerer will print
a page or not until I walk downstairs and look
at the HP Postscript printer. Usually it does
but never if I am looking at a *.pdf file.

b) At least 1 out of 3 Java applets seem to
break konqueror.

c) Sessions - like in konsole - for that neat
terminal emulator window.

2) A parameter which if on says : if in doubt
use emacs/xemacs key bindings rather than Windoze bindings.
i.e. as I am writing this:
Cntr-E (good, I get end of line)
Cntr-A (bad, it selects the whole text)
Cntrl-D (oops where am I now)

3)
Chose another name for Advanced Editor - xemacs
IS the advanced editor.

4) KMail
A much higher expectation of success if I open
an atachment sent me by a Windoze user.

5) Lots more of course but each new version of
KDE2 suprises me with the rapidity of how my
wish list shrinks?

For me KDE2, has won the catch up on Windoze
except for the quality of fonts but one can hardly blaim KDE for that.

by matteo porta (not verified)

in konqueror i'd like to save an html page and its images into a SINGLE file. ie5 has this feature (look in win2000 for .MHT files) and i have already lots of mht files: i cannot switch to linux until i can read and save .MHT files!

for more info you can find the RFC here:

http://www.dsv.su.se/~jpalme/ietf/mhtml.html

thanks

by Peter Leftwich (not verified)

I would like to see ALL browsers, especially those under FreeBSD and Unix in general, support File> Save As... > mht web archive single file :) What's the latest on this, vis-a-vis KDE, Netscape, and Gnome? Thanks.

You can archive pages in a single file with Konqueror. Install KDE Addons.

You do not have to save as mht files the new ones, Konqueror has its own *.war file (web archive). You just need to view the old ones that you have.

In reality, war and mht are both e-mail or news base64 encoded "messages" that embed the data inside the file.

There is a way Netscape Messenger can view the archives - I've tested it, but I dropped this hint brcause even viewing pictures and text, Netscape Messenger could not replicate the layout of the original page as saved by Internet Exploder. The pictures came always at the bottom of the page and their initial position was void but in the dimentions of the picture. That's the tragedy when you rely on proprietary non-standard formats. The blame is entirely on Microsoft.

hi,

a wysiwyg - html editor/webgraficstool such as Dreamweaver/fireworks would make KDE the best web-ide ever.

and .. please speed up kde .. as (at the moment it is much solower than M$ guis)

by Steve Hunt (not verified)

That would be great. I think a Front Page semi-clone would be nice, just forget the proprietary tags and server-extension issues. But yes, a nice free (or cheap) wysiwyg editor designed for KDE would be great :-) I'll ask TheKompany about that, see if they're interested.

by Eron Lloyd (not verified)

I'd like to see Konqi become *THE* XML browser - XML is now the standard markup language of the Web, and unfortunately IE is beating everyone else to the punch. I'd hate to see everyone start building on it's propreitary XML/XSL extensions. I've already seen some prelimenary code functionality - click on an XML document and it will attempt to parse it (against a CSS). However, it crashes out on simple scripts. Opera (the Qt browser) seems to be gaining some better XML support as well. This is reminds me of something I've been wondering - what kind of long range plan exists for XML support in KDE (and in the Qt core)? GNOME seems to be working on some XML/XSLT libs, and I know of some support for DOM & SAX Lv. 2 in Qt 2.x. The IE engine and MSXML form the foundation for EVERY XML app (generally) in Windows. I believe we need to provide that same (if not better, more compliant) component kit for developers looking for their next generation platform. More than half of all desktop application developed in the future will handle XML in some way - let's become the best platform for XML development, both on the Web and on the desktop!

It is a good idea to do that !

What i want in kde2.2 :
-a trash (as in win$ or MacOS)
-a good DnD with the bookmark and history in konqueror,
-a faster start ok kde2.2 !
....

JP

by Daniel Molkentin (not verified)

> -a trash (as in win$ or MacOS)

Exists since ages

> -a good DnD with the bookmark and history in konqueror,

Define, please!

i have an athlon 1400mhz with 512 ram fast hard disk , and it take 1 second to open the preferences from konqueror!
it take 2.5 seconds to start an konqueror window
from the panel!
2 seconds for kmail to startup.
4 seconds to get notun startet when i kilck on an mp3 file directly.
3 seconds to start Quanta +
4 seconds for kdevelop
3 seconds for kword

cant they be INSTANT there ???

Whith 512 MB of RAM you only have to do this once.
Why do you keep shutting them down?

ok. you asked for it ;)

I would like applications to appear on the same desktop that they were started from. Dammit, we had that feature before, I want it, please!

When you click to maximize a window, it fills up the whole screen, except for kicker's space. So far so good. What I'd like to do is hold down shift or alt or whatever and drag a rectangle on my desktop. Now, whenever I click on maximize, the windows will be exactly on this rectangle. I think this would be very handy when you have a big screen (i do ;) and want to leave some space on the side for some status-info apps.

I don't think it would be too hard to do that, since it is already done with child-extensions of Kicker etc. They are not covered by other windows on maximize, either.

Thank you for listening!

It's not THE feature, but it could be very useful. For example, the bug report must be in english, but a non-english user can't know the english name of a button or a menu, so it could be very useful to change the language of ONE application DYNAMICALLY, sothat it could use the real english name in his bug report. An another feature : the wizard web bug report is cool but it will be more cool if it use kmail to send a mail, sothat the bug reporter can manage his bug report thanks his mail client AND take advantage of the easiness of the web interface.
An another another feature : replace that web interface by a programm, sothat the bug reporter just must connect for sending his bug reporter, and not to create his bug report too.
Just three idea, JSL.

Two things stability and speed.

One of the reason for using Linux instead of win9* was stability - and speed is always fun.

by Steve Hunt (not verified)

"A good artist copies.
A great artist steals."
-Patrick Norton, I think.

This is what we should do with many things. KDE is definately ahead of GNOME when it comes to the desktop, but many GNOME apps are ahead of their KDE counterparts. What should we do?

STEAL THEM!!!

Think about it! They're under the GPL, right? That means that we can legally take them, KDE'ify them, and package them. Nothing wrong with that.

We should not make a new EVERYTHING if there is a similar, open source program that does the job. Just port it over to KDE, and go. That will save lots of time, allowing developers to add even more useful features in their programs.

Just a suggestion, though.

by Russ Steffen (not verified)

I know I'm late to the party, and this will probably be lost in the noise, but what I want from the next KDE -

- Ability to selectively sync KDE settings, bookarmarks, desktops, etc between two accounts. So that when I bookmark a webpage at work, it automatically shows up on my KDE at home.

- Ability to bind progams to key presses. When you need a new konsole windows, it sucks to have to leave the keyboard to launch one (and the K-menu is difficult to keyboard-navigate quickly).

by Jason Katz-Brown (not verified)

u can do the last one in menu editor...

good luck
jason

by Irv Mullins (not verified)

Enough speed so it can actually be used on average computers.
Computers that run KDE1.x just fine.

by ./scythe::lhfd->s (not verified)

What KDE really needs is stability. In my opionion the developers concentrated more on new features and pretty graphics then on keeping the windowmanager stable and fast. Though KDE is feature rich, user friendly, and a pure eyecandy, it doesn't make me want to be my default windowmanager until it get's more stable.

Bookmark organisation by drag'n'drop directly in the sidebar.
And remembering that the sidebar was open last time I used konqueror.

by Olle (not verified)

We need a media player that can play avi, divx etc etc.. And we need it now!!

Kde is great!!

by Rune Nordvik (not verified)

First of all thank you for making KDE.

I think the main missing feature is

  • Stable KOffice. And it should be able to open/save all MS Of
    fice formats perfectly (or at least that KWord is able to open/save MS Word 97 format

I think the MS Office is the key to MS success. If the KDE-team can make KOffice a better and faster product then MS Office then the users will start using KDE and Linux instead of Windows.

by Ansgar John (not verified)

I think, by pressing Crtl-s, the cursor should jump into the status line or so (_not_ open a much to big window, which hides the text I wanna search!) and expect my incremental-search. And best of all, this should work in every KDE-program (konqueror, editor, kmail, ...) - I'd LOVE it!

The feature that I would like to see added most is something small, but I would like to see the spinning K gear in konqueror changed to something a little more useful, namely a bandwidth meter. It seems like every browser since mosiac has had to have a completely useless spinning globe type icon sitting in the upper right hand corner to be considered complete...how about a change?

by Pedro Ziviani (not verified)

I really like KDE's support for WindowMaker dock apps and I use it a lot. There is one bug on this feature though, that prevents me to use it alll the time. Once the "Dock Application Bar" is enabled, most java aplications will incorrectly "dock" into the docking bar, forcing me to shut java application the docking bar down. I would appreciate it very much to see this bug fixed.

by Adam Wiggins (not verified)

KDE is doing a wonderful job of unifying the UNIX desktop. It just needs to continue down that road until all aspects of using a desktop computer can be done from KDE. This includes:

- Configuration utilities. I agree that this should be in the hands of the distribution writers, but they should be writing plug-ins for the Control Center so that you can handle ALL aspects of system configuration from here, including network setup, printer setup (printtool works great but looks like crap), and so forth.

- KOffice. So far all of the apps are attractive, polished, and easy to use. Unfortunately they are not terribly useful; trying to edit anything more complex than a letter in KWord is pretty difficult. Ditto for the other KOffice apps. However, I'm much more inclined to use them versus the more mature StarOffice, Applix, or even WordPerfect, for the simple reason that they bear the polished, integrated, slick look and feel of KDE. All the other office apps are, quite simply, clunky.

- Interoperability. KOffice needs to lift the import/export filters for MS Word and Excel docs out of StarOffice so that I can use KWord and KSpread all the time, not just when I'm creating docs/spreadsheets that no one will ever use but me.

- Speed. If Konquerer had the snapiness that (say) Netscape 4 does, I'd be in heaven. I still use Konquerer because it's better, but even on an Athalon 700 w/ 384megs of RAM it still slows down quite a bit when I've got six or eight reasonably complex pages open. Logging in and logging out are two things that could also use optimization - sharing a computer amongst a number of roommates is great on a true multiuser system, but it's a 90 second turnaround (or so) to log out and log back in, even when all of KDE should be in the memory cache.

- Documentation! There are a million cool features in KDE, but most of them are impossible to learn about without either browsing the code, find out from one of the programmers, or reading it on dot.kde.org.

KDE is, in my opinion, the best desktop enviornment ever created, for any platform. So it's really exciting to see it continuing to move forward; just imagine how good it will be in a year, or two years time.

by Oops (not verified)

Finally...

I was looking for a post in this poll, that I
could reply to, as simply saying: "lean back,
it's alright" seems not suitable.

The mentioned incompatibility of KOffice is
really one thing I cannot criticize but lament

Who wants M$-Word, if he can use better things?
Well-, about all the folks I have to exchange
documents with...

But I deem the task a heavy one and would not
venture to urge anybody.
In fact: My incompetence to contribute
some useful code myself is what makes me really
sad.

Michael

I want the development team to stop adding features, for about a year, and concentrate on making KDE smaller and faster.

Konquerer (the web browser) needs some serious work, especially. It routinely locks on me.

by Bryan Pizzuti (not verified)

I'm surprised no one though of this. SInce KDE is such a good desktop replacement, wouldn't it be ideal for client-server computing? ow about an X-server/KWM verson for Windows and Mac that can connect to a remote Linux box, and run KDE (Similar to Exceed or something, but I know KDE only really likes it's own window manager...)? All the processes and files and programs are stored on the remote Linux box (Mainframe, server, whatever) and the Wintel/Mac just acts as a dumb terminal. It would also be a good environment to LEARN Linux from...rather than having 20 machines for a computer class for each OS, or setting them to dual-boot (And don't say VMWare...requirements are too beefy for the average workstation) have them run Windows, and establish a session to a mildly meaty remote KDE box.

by Hervé PARISSI (not verified)

So why not just install Linux on them ?
Anyway, X and Linux have always been network-oriented and multi-user!
There's Xfree now under Window$ and of course X under MacOS X so connecting to a remote KDE is just a matter of DISPLAY

Mark 1 for faster and less of memory hog for me.

Two more wishes:

1. Some adaptive organization facility that learns what you use and what you don't and better presents that to you when you use the system. Just look at System and Utilities submenus from the K. These are menus that are reaching critical mass with programs that people use less than 5-10% of the time. *****Commandline utilities should be removed from the standard dist, if people want them, click on some script that'll put them in, otherwise it clutters the whole thing.*****

2. A better keyboard engine that can emulate VI and EMACS. I want to hit ESC and then / in any window and have the search window come up. I want to hit ESC and : to run commands from any window. I want to bind macros to any command in any program to any key from the keyboard. The status bar would be a great place to embed such technology. ***Anyone up to the challenge??*** Remember the Tom Christiansen exchange on slashdot? I think it is a serious problem when you dumify a WM you leave out expert users. You add this and make it speedy, you make it an %%%AWESOME%%% experience for everyone.

Thanks for a great desktop.

by Conrad Beckert (not verified)

Konqueror file manager:
1. Enable the user to publish a file/ directory/ printer/ modem... as a (Samba SMB) share. (as in Windows as of WfW)

2. Have a facility to pick up ressources (SMB shares, any mountable device, printers, scanners, audio equipment etc.) and plug them into the system. As in WfW there could be a tree view of all network visible machines showing all their published resources.

Perhaps one could integrate a general user interface and API for sharing ressources into KDE that would enable anyone to program their own plug ins for shared access. (For resources to be shared in that context I think of: databases, applications, scientific devices, robots etc.)

Beside of that
- Make loading and starting faster.

Conrad

by Martijn Bruns (not verified)

I'd like to see an option in kdm to display/see the chooser-dialog first. (If it's already in there, i couldn't find it.)

Does the chooser dialog work at all? I've tried running it, but it never shows any of the xdmcp-servers on the network.

by Martijn Bruns (not verified)

I'd like to see an option in kdm to display/see the chooser-dialog first. (If it's already in there, i couldn't find it.)

Does the chooser dialog work at all? I've tried running it, but it never shows any of the xdmcp-servers on the network.