KDE-CVS-Digest for July 9, 2004

In this week's KDE CVS-Digest:
Query designer in Kexi now has the ability to switch between visual and SQL mode.
KPresenter improves page effects.
Krita adds computing histograms.
amaroK adds support for streaming over any supported KIO protocol.
Many bugfixes in aKregator, Kopete and Umbrello.

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Comments

by ac (not verified)

Does anybody know where Quanta CVS is now? CVSup only gives me empty directories, which is confirmed by
http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/quanta/ .

by Anonymous (not verified)

kdewebdev/quanta

by ac (not verified)

Thanks.

by Thomas (not verified)

I'd like to get some websites working in konqu, which aren't working atm (3.3beta), like
parts of www.vodafone.de (kjs hangs)
www.map24.de (kde java classes incomplete, applet fails to load)
www.photo-druck.de (kjs hangs)
www.telefonbuch.de (mean dhtml stuff)
this annoying issue, where flash seems to stay always on top, even if it should be hidden e.g. by the dynamic parts of a site.

(ducking and heading over to b.k.o)

by garaged (not verified)

I can see all those sites correctly, I think, no problem with all of them

What version of kde are you using ? im using CVS from a week ago

by Mikhail Capone (not verified)

Can you see this one correctly?
( http://lefti.blogspot.com/ )

It's okay with Gecko, so I'm not sure if it's a problem with the website/blogger template or Konq.

by Evil Homer (not verified)

The W3C Validator (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Flefti.blogspot.com%2F) says the page has 587 errors.

So maybe you can notify the author of the website to correct the errors.

by fprog (not verified)

Seems like the site is using HTML 4.x,
but has a DOCTYPE of XHTML,
so basically, it's using poor XHTML extension.

The thing is that Konqueror is "correct",
but the site author is using a web browser that
ignores DocType info and does it best to render,
so the author doesn't or care if it doesn't work
on non-IE browser or non-netscape/mozilla.

by superstoned (not verified)

wel, I know the khtml devs are very busy, and dont really feal like fixing broken webpages (in almost all cases, its the pagebuilders' mistake, and just because it worked on the broken IE, they often dont want to fix it "because it works (only in IE, but thats enough for us)". you should file a complait to them, its their mistake...).

but if you really want it to get fixed, you should find out what is wrong (eg what code is causing the problem) and generally to make it as easy as possible to fix it. then they might do so.

this is NOT meant to be rude or insensitive, its just that there are a few billion webpages out there, with all sorts of wrong code, which just happens to work on IE cuz that browser is full of mistakes too/because that browser can make up broken code quite well (depends on vieuwpoint huh?) and it is really impossible to fix em all. the ppl from macintosh working on khtml said the same, some time ago - they aren't gonna fix it either - that whould take far too much work, which they prefer to spend on making the browser compliant with the latest real W3C standards, like CSS2.

by Thomas (not verified)

> but if you really want it to get fixed, you should find out what is wrong
> (eg what code is causing the problem) and generally to make it as easy as
> possible to fix it. then they might do so.

Well I tried to hunt it down a bit to file a bug report. Front-pages of all the above mentioned sites are o.k. (exept for telefonbuch.de). It's mostly some functionality of the site which is done using javascript and screws up kjs...

by Niek (not verified)

I tested with Konqi from CVS 20040706. All sites are working perfect, except the map24 one. But map24 has big problems in Firefox too.

by Jean-François L... (not verified)

"I tested with Konqi from CVS 20040706. All sites are working perfect, except the map24 one. But map24 has big problems in Firefox too."

That one is O.K. here (at least the maps are displaying correctly and I can zoom and pan into them, didn't look any further). Konqueror 3.2.3, SUSE 9.1, java2-jre-1.4.2-129.

JFL

by Derek Kite (not verified)

Blackdown-1.4.2-rc1

crashes on the applet.

That is with a recent cvs build, gentoo.

Derek

by Niek (not verified)

$ java-config -v
java version "1.5.0-beta2"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0-beta2-b51)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0-beta2-b51, mixed mode)

Also a Gentoo CVS build of Konqi. Can you test it with Firefox too?

by AC (not verified)

What's that LYOD stuff? A replacement for libICE?

by Sad Eagle (not verified)

Yes.

by AC (not verified)

What's wrong with libICE? Lack of a maintainer? Why start anew?

Will LYOD be obselete if KDE4 uses DCOP over DBUS?

by A non-moose (not verified)

BTW, does anyone know if the Konqi/KHTML people plan on joining WHAT-WG (http://www.whatwg.org/)?

by anon (not verified)

Some of the safari guys seem involved, and they represent khtml-dom.

by Shift (not verified)

Konqueror team should participate to this dicussion.

Safari team doesn't represent khtml but Apple. I am not sure that Apple will be the only one to anticipate the future of khtml.
Moreover khtml and khtml-safari are really differents (different base, different features,...). Patch take a long time to be included in both of them. If Apple wanted to work on khtml, it would be a better idea to merge CVS.

by Alex (not verified)

Anybody knows if there is a mozilla-style for KDE/qt?

by Evan "JabberWok... (not verified)

If you mean a style that unifies Mozilla/Firefox with KDE, do a search for Mozilla in the description in kde-look.org (click search on the left hand side, then type Mozilla into the *second* field, and hit search). Plastik for Mozilla/Firefox is available, plus something that makes Mozilla use KDE Open/Save dialogs.

by Alex (not verified)

Hm, I was actually thinking of a style that makes KDE look like Mozilla. :-)
The Mozille modern style is pretty good actually.

Thanks for your help anyway, I'll try those.